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{{sub-stub}}'''''NBA All-Star Challenge''''' is a basketball game released for the [[Sega Mega Drive]].
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is a basketball game released for the [[Sega Mega Drive]].
  
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==Physical Scans==
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==Gameplay==
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The game is a one-on-one basketball game played on a half-court with one basket. The roster is composed of NBA superstars from the 1991 and 1992 seasons, including Michael Jordan, David Robinson, Larry Bird, and Patrick Ewing. There are multiple play modes, all of which can be played by one or two players.
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All fouls are called, including minor fouls like goaltending, and there is a 24-second shot clock. Committing a foul awards possession of the ball to the other player.
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| desc=Players compete to score the most baskets. Baskets from within the three-point line are worth two points, and shots from outside of it are worth three points.
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Matches can be timed (2, 5, 8, or 12 minutes) or played to a certain number of points (from 5 to 95 points in multiples of 5). Players can toggle winner's outs (possession of the ball goes to the other player after making a basket). When playing against the computer, the player chooses from three difficulty levels and picks the opponent.
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The D-Pad moves the player around the court. While on defense, the player can jump to block a shot with {{A}}. The player can try to grab the ball from the opposing player with {{B}}. On offense, the player performs a jump shot by pressing {{A}} to jump and pressing {{A}} again while in the air. Landing without shooting the ball results in a traveling call. While moving, the player dunks the ball by pressing {{C}} to jump and pressing {{C}} again while in the air.
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| desc=Players attempt multiple baskets from the free throw line (5, 10, 20, or 30 attempts). In a one-player game, the player has no competitor and simply tries to make as many baskets as possible. In two-player games, the players take turns to see who can make the most baskets.
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A cursor encircles the basket, which determines where the ball is thrown. The player shoots the ball with {{A}}. The success of the shot depends on properly timing the button press to the position of the cursor.
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| title=3 Point Shootout
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| desc=Players try to make as many shots from the three-point line as possible. In a one-player game, the player has no competitor and simply tries to make as many baskets as possible. In two-player games, the players take turns to see who can make the most baskets.
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The player attempts five different shots from five different positions around the three-point line. The first four balls in each positions are worth one point each; the last ball is colored red, white, and blue and worth two points. The player jumps with {{A}} and shoots with {{A}} again while in the air.
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In the Warmup mode, there is no time limit. In the Contest mode, there is a one-minute time limit for completing all five sets. In single-player games, the player chooses an opponent in Contest mode but has no competitor in Warmup mode.
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| title=HORSE
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| desc=One player takes a shot from anywhere on the court. If the shot goes in, the other player must make a shot from the same position (which is marked on the court with a big X). If the first player fails to make the initial shot, the other player gets to attempt any shot, which the first player must then try to duplicate. If the second player fails to replicate the first player's shot, the player is given a letter in the word "HORSE." The game goes on until one player gets all the letters in "HORSE" and loses.
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The D-Pad moves the player around the court. The player performs a jump shot by pressing {{A}} to jump and pressing {{A}} again while in the air. When trying to duplicate the other player's shot, the player can only jump while standing on the X that indicates the position of the initial shot.
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| desc=This mode plays the same as the regular One on One game, with the same rules, options, and controls, but players select four different players and compete in multiple matches in a 7-game tournament. In single-player games, the player selects the opposing players as well and can choose which players to play in the second and third stages of the tournament.
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===Roster===
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Every team in the NBA at the time has one star player in the game. Players are chosen by team rather than by name.
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| players=Rony Seikaly
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| players=Derrick Coleman
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| players=Patrick Ewing
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| players=Brad Daugherty
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| players=Isiah Thomas
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| team=Indiana Pacers
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| division=ediv2
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| players=Reggie Miller
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| division=ediv2
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| players=Alvin Robertson
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| players=Derek Harper
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| players=Dikembe Mutombo
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| team=Houston Rockets
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| division=wdiv2
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| players=Hakeem Olajuwon
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| team=Minnesota Timberwolves
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| division=wdiv2
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| players=Tony Campbell
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| team=Orlando Magic
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| division=wdiv2
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| players=Scott Skiles
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| team=San Antonio Spurs
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| division=wdiv2
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| players=David Robinson
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| team=Utah Jazz
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| division=wdiv2
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| players=Karl Malone
 
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| team=Golden State Warriors
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=Chris Mullin
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| team=Los Angeles Clippers
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=Danny Manning
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| team=Los Angeles Lakers
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=James Worthy
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| team=Phoenix Suns
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=Charles Barkley
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}}
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| team=Portland Trailblazers
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=Clyde Drexler
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}}
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| team=Sacramento Kings
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=Mitch Richmond
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}}
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| team=Seattle Supersonics
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| division=wdiv1
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| players=Shawn Kemp
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}}
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==Production credits==
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{{creditstable|
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*'''Programming:''' Tim Bennett, Cameron Sheppard, Andrew Bailey
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*'''Graphics:''' Greg Holland, Steve French, Joe Rimmer
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*'''Voice:''' Peter McInnes
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*'''Music & Sound:''' Marshall Parker, Trevor Nuridin
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*'''Beam Q.A.:''' Ann Davie, Brian Uniacke, Chris Tan
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*'''Beam Producer:''' Sue Anderson
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*'''Acclaim Producers:''' Tom Gibson, Dan Feinstein, Ann Davie
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| source=In-game credits
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| pdf=NBA All-Star Challenge MD credits.png
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| console=MD
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==Magazine articles==
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{{mainArticle|{{PAGENAME}}/Magazine articles}}
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==Promotional material==
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Latest revision as of 05:33, 9 October 2024

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NBA All-Star Challenge
System(s): Sega Mega Drive
Publisher: Flying Edge
Developer:
Distributor: Hent Gruppen (SE rental)
Licensor: NBA Properties[1]
Genre: Sports (basketball)

















Number of players: 1-2
Release Date RRP Code
Sega Mega Drive
US 		$49.9549.95[3] T-81126
Sega Mega Drive
EU 		T-81126-50
Sega Mega Drive
UK 		£39.9939.99[4][5] T-81126-50
Sega Mega Drive
SE
(Rental)
Sega Mega Drive
AU 		F NBA 00 SMC
Non-Sega versions

NBA All-Star Challenge is a basketball game released for the Sega Mega Drive.

Gameplay

The game is a one-on-one basketball game played on a half-court with one basket. The roster is composed of NBA superstars from the 1991 and 1992 seasons, including Michael Jordan, David Robinson, Larry Bird, and Patrick Ewing. There are multiple play modes, all of which can be played by one or two players.

All fouls are called, including minor fouls like goaltending, and there is a 24-second shot clock. Committing a foul awards possession of the ball to the other player.

NBA All-Star Challenge, One on One.png

One on One
Players compete to score the most baskets. Baskets from within the three-point line are worth two points, and shots from outside of it are worth three points.

Matches can be timed (2, 5, 8, or 12 minutes) or played to a certain number of points (from 5 to 95 points in multiples of 5). Players can toggle winner's outs (possession of the ball goes to the other player after making a basket). When playing against the computer, the player chooses from three difficulty levels and picks the opponent.

The D-Pad moves the player around the court. While on defense, the player can jump to block a shot with A. The player can try to grab the ball from the opposing player with B. On offense, the player performs a jump shot by pressing A to jump and pressing A again while in the air. Landing without shooting the ball results in a traveling call. While moving, the player dunks the ball by pressing C to jump and pressing C again while in the air.

NBA All-Star Challenge, Free Throws.png

Free Throws
Players attempt multiple baskets from the free throw line (5, 10, 20, or 30 attempts). In a one-player game, the player has no competitor and simply tries to make as many baskets as possible. In two-player games, the players take turns to see who can make the most baskets.

A cursor encircles the basket, which determines where the ball is thrown. The player shoots the ball with A. The success of the shot depends on properly timing the button press to the position of the cursor.

NBA All-Star Challenge, 3 Point Shootout.png

3 Point Shootout
Players try to make as many shots from the three-point line as possible. In a one-player game, the player has no competitor and simply tries to make as many baskets as possible. In two-player games, the players take turns to see who can make the most baskets.

The player attempts five different shots from five different positions around the three-point line. The first four balls in each positions are worth one point each; the last ball is colored red, white, and blue and worth two points. The player jumps with A and shoots with A again while in the air.

In the Warmup mode, there is no time limit. In the Contest mode, there is a one-minute time limit for completing all five sets. In single-player games, the player chooses an opponent in Contest mode but has no competitor in Warmup mode.

NBA All-Star Challenge, HORSE.png

HORSE
One player takes a shot from anywhere on the court. If the shot goes in, the other player must make a shot from the same position (which is marked on the court with a big X). If the first player fails to make the initial shot, the other player gets to attempt any shot, which the first player must then try to duplicate. If the second player fails to replicate the first player's shot, the player is given a letter in the word "HORSE." The game goes on until one player gets all the letters in "HORSE" and loses.

The D-Pad moves the player around the court. The player performs a jump shot by pressing A to jump and pressing A again while in the air. When trying to duplicate the other player's shot, the player can only jump while standing on the X that indicates the position of the initial shot.

NBA All-Star Challenge, One on One Tournament, Bracket.png

NBA All-Star Challenge, One on One Tournament, Gameplay.png

  • NBA All-Star Challenge, One on One Tournament, Bracket.png

  • NBA All-Star Challenge, One on One Tournament, Gameplay.png

One on One Tournament
This mode plays the same as the regular One on One game, with the same rules, options, and controls, but players select four different players and compete in multiple matches in a 7-game tournament. In single-player games, the player selects the opposing players as well and can choose which players to play in the second and third stages of the tournament.

Roster

Every team in the NBA at the time has one star player in the game. Players are chosen by team rather than by name.


Conference Division Team Players
Western Pacific Golden State Warriors Golden State Warriors Chris Mullin
Los Angeles Clippers Los Angeles Clippers Danny Manning
Los Angeles Lakers Los Angeles Lakers James Worthy
Phoenix Suns Phoenix Suns Charles Barkley
Portland Trailblazers Portland Trailblazers Clyde Drexler
Sacramento Kings Sacramento Kings Mitch Richmond
Seattle Supersonics Seattle Supersonics Shawn Kemp
Midwest Dallas Mavericks Dallas Mavericks Derek Harper
Denver Nuggets Denver Nuggets Dikembe Mutombo
Houston Rockets Houston Rockets Hakeem Olajuwon
Minnesota Timberwolves Minnesota Timberwolves Tony Campbell
Orlando Magic Orlando Magic Scott Skiles
San Antonio Spurs San Antonio Spurs David Robinson
Utah Jazz Utah Jazz Karl Malone
Eastern Atlantic Boston Celtics Boston Celtics Larry Bird
Miami Heat Miami Heat Rony Seikaly
New Jersey Nets New Jersey Nets Derrick Coleman
New York Knicks New York Knicks Patrick Ewing
Philadelphia 76ers Philadelphia 76ers Hersey Hawkins
Washington Bullets Washington Bullets Bernard King
Central Atlanta Hawks Atlanta Hawks Dominique Wilkins
Charlotte Hornets Charlotte Hornets J.R. Reid
Chicago Bulls Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan
Cleveland Cavaliers Cleveland Cavaliers Brad Daugherty
Detroit Pistons Detroit Pistons Isiah Thomas
Indiana Pacers Indiana Pacers Reggie Miller
Milwaukee Bucks Milwaukee Bucks Alvin Robertson

Production credits

  • Programming: Tim Bennett, Cameron Sheppard, Andrew Bailey
  • Graphics: Greg Holland, Steve French, Joe Rimmer
  • Voice: Peter McInnes
  • Music & Sound: Marshall Parker, Trevor Nuridin
  • Beam Q.A.: Ann Davie, Brian Uniacke, Chris Tan
  • Beam Producer: Sue Anderson
  • Acclaim Producers: Tom Gibson, Dan Feinstein, Ann Davie
Source:
In-game credits
NBA All-Star Challenge MD credits.png
[6]


Magazine articles

Main article: NBA All-Star Challenge/Magazine articles.

Promotional material

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Print advert in Electronic Gaming Monthly (US) #41: "December 1992" (1992-xx-xx)
also published in:
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Physical scans

Sega Retro Average 
Publication Score Source
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0 review
Sega Retro Average 
Publication Version Score
1700 igr dlya Sega (RU)
40
[8]
Computer & Video Games (UK)
47
[4]
Digitiser (UK) PAL
70
[9]
Electronic Games (1992-1995) (US) NTSC-U
85
[10]
Mean Machines: The Essential Sega Guide (UK)
29
[11]
Joypad (FR) PAL
74
[12]
Sega Mega Drive Advanced Gaming (UK) NTSC-U
57
[13]
Mega (UK) NTSC-U
19
[14]
Mega Action (UK) NTSC-U
77
[15]
Mega Force (FR)
74
[16]
Mega Fun (DE) NTSC-U
35
[17]
Mean Machines Sega (UK) PAL
29
[18]
Play Time (DE) NTSC-U
58
[19]
Sega Pro (UK) NTSC-U
70
[20]
Sega Zone (UK) PAL
55
[21]
Sega Force (UK) NTSC-U
63
[22]
Tricks 16 bit (RU)
65
[23]
Video Games (DE)
58
[24]
Sega Mega Drive
 56
Based on
18 reviews

NBA All-Star Challenge

Mega Drive, US
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Cover
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Cart
Mega Drive, EU
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Cover
NBAASC MD EU Cart.jpg
Cart
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Manual
Mega Drive, SE (rental; Hent; orange)
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Cover
Mega Drive, AU

Technical information

Main article: NBA All-Star Challenge/Technical information.

References

  1. ↑ File:NBAAllStarChallenge MD US Box.jpg
  2. ↑ Sega Visions, "February/March 1993" (US; 199x-xx-xx), page 100
  3. ↑ VideoGames & Computer Entertainment, "March 1993" (US; 1993-0x-xx), page 44
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 Computer & Video Games, "June 1993" (UK; 1993-05-15), page 81
  5. ↑ Sega Zone, "July 1993" (UK; 1993-06-xx), page 45
  6. ↑ File:NBA All-Star Challenge MD credits.png
  7. ↑ Sega Visions, "February/March 1993" (US; 199x-xx-xx), page 5
  8. ↑ 1700 igr dlya Sega, "" (RU; 2001-xx-xx), page 203
  9. ↑ Digitiser (UK) (1993-03-18)
  10. ↑ Electronic Games (1992-1995), "May 1993" (US; 1993-04-xx), page 64
  11. ↑ Mean Machines: The Essential Sega Guide, "" (UK; 1993-11-18), page 74
  12. ↑ Joypad, "Octobre 1993" (FR; 1993-xx-xx), page 126
  13. ↑ Sega Mega Drive Advanced Gaming, "May 1993" (UK; 1993-xx-xx), page 28
  14. ↑ Mega, "August 1993" (UK; 1993-07-15), page 56
  15. ↑ Mega Action, "February 1994" (UK; 1994-01-28), page 26
  16. ↑ Mega Force, "Octobre 1993" (FR; 1993-10-08), page 98
  17. ↑ Mega Fun, "05/93" (DE; 1993-0x-xx), page 74
  18. ↑ Mean Machines Sega, "July 1993" (UK; 1993-05-25), page 86
  19. ↑ Play Time, "6/93" (DE; 1993-05-05), page 96
  20. ↑ Sega Pro, "May 1993" (UK; 1993-04-08), page 54
  21. ↑ Sega Zone, "July 1993" (UK; 1993-06-xx), page 44
  22. ↑ Sega Force, "June 1993" (UK; 1993-05-06), page 70
  23. ↑ Tricks 16 bit, "Tricks Sega Gold 800 igr" (RU; 1998-03-20), page 126
  24. ↑ Video Games, "7/93" (DE; 1993-06-30), page 96


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