User talk:Black Squirrel/Mega Drive bundles

So I guess the plan is to replace this page with something more... elegant. Problem is, I'm not sure how best to handle the scans

doing something like this:

Box	Name	Date	Price	Console	Cables	Controllers	Games	Notes
Mega Drive, EU Cover	Mega Drive	>= 1991	£		?	x2	Sonic the Hedgehog

is a bit messy, and I don't know where I'd put manuals/warranty cards/whatever without this getting even more cluttered. Ideally I want to reduce the amount of scrolling, but I don't want to upset the scan tracker.

This solution will need to apply to all systems, including the Saturn which has its own thing going on (which I'm not keen on either - we'll have a lot of stretched templates when manuals start being collected).

Advice/solutions? -Black Squirrel (talk) 04:02, 4 June 2014 (CDT)

Oh and also - to save costs, Sega often used a "standard" console box and wrappd it in a cardboard sleeve for special editions. I've been ignoring this fact up until now, but I imagine it'll come back to haunt us in the future for whatever reason. Presumably we'll want a way to manage that too (and again I think it'll clutter up the scanbox template if I start adding 3909342 fields for all the different box sides plus the sleeve sides - it wasn't really built with this stuff in mind). -Black Squirrel (talk) 12:25, 4 June 2014 (CDT)

okay then

Box	Name	Date & Price	Console	Hardware	Software	Documentation
	Mega-CD	£Gimp000.00 (1964-01-01) £2135.24 (1986-01-01)	HCD-000-111	VMU (x4) | AC adaptor | RF switch	Cobra Command | Sol-Feace | Sega Classics Arcade Collection	Manual | Stuff | More stuff
	Dreamcast 2	£564.43 (1953-01-01) £564.64 (1986-01-01)	HKT-403	StuntMaster (x34) | MegaGrip IV	Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II | Rampage	Manual | Stuff | More stuff
^ this would be your box scan with all the different sides	^uneccessary? idk	^to handle price drops		^aka controllers, leads	^pretend this stuf is all spaced correctly

good/bad? Also not sure what the ideal template should look like -Black Squirrel (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2014 (CDT)

??

Box	Name	Date & Price	Console	Hardware	Software	Documentation
	Mega Drive 32X					Connector cable Connector cable 2 Connector cable 3	Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II 2	Manual Epilepsy Warning Patents
	Mega Drive					Connector cable Connector cable 2 Connector cable 3	Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II 2	Manual Epilepsy Warning Patents

-Black Squirrel (talk) 05:34, 8 June 2014 (CDT)

Looks good to me, I like the option to account for price drops, could the same be done for software? I need to find some magazine news articles which listed tons of UK hardware bundles.--Pirate Dragon (talk) 14:05, 9 June 2014 (CDT)

Software would be awkward because it means adjusting the releases template... although it probably needs adjusting anyway to take into account all the European currencies (and of course the switch to the Euro). I haven't looked much into this - were Sega setting reduced RRPs or was it just for the retailers to decide? -Black Squirrel (talk) 14:15, 9 June 2014 (CDT)

Sega reduced the RRP for a lot of Master System and Mega Drive games, creating £9.99 SMS and £19.99 MD budget ranges.--Pirate Dragon (talk) 14:28, 9 June 2014 (CDT)

After going through my magazine collection twice, along with numerous scans I was perplexed as to why I couldn't find an article I recalled. Yesterday it hit me, it was actually in Sonic the Comic. UK Xmas 1993 bundles; imgur.com/15f1Cu3 --Pirate Dragon (talk) 03:18, 12 July 2014 (CDT)

I'm wondering if those prices are right - the Sonic Master System bundle seems to have gone up from £49 (1993) to £49.99 (1994). Also I take it the SMS bundles are consoles with Sonic built-in as opposed to being bundled with a physical cart -Black Squirrel (talk) 04:39, 12 July 2014 (CDT)

The only other article with prices only lists MD bundles (imgur.com/t0tPZ0q), but those are rounded down to the pound too (£129, £149 etc). Here's the 1994 article on SMS price drops (imgur.com/NpoBWNt). Which seems to contradict unless the holiday 1993 prices were just temporary reductions (that's quite possible as there was a big retail price war on Sega hardware that holiday, forcing Nintendo to temporarily drop prices too, I'll have to dig out that article). Holiday 1994 bundles (imgur.com/3lD4E0F). News on Sega's price reductions on March 15, 1990 (imgur.com/QdvJgWA). Not mentioned in that article was that they actually changed the prices of everything, even increasing prices on some items, full list here (imgur.com/g6dGoy2). They would later do the same for MD, and in 1994 introduced the Classics range, but the latter is already accounted for in the template due to having different covers. Those bundles must be with Sonic built in, as none include Alex Kidd, the only other built in game with SMSII--Pirate Dragon (talk) 06:37, 13 July 2014 (CDT)