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*Victor JX1-L and S – Not sure which is which, since long box is said to be L in book while Japanese sites shows a square box, but that one doesn’t make a distinction between L and S, so both might be right. Again there’s the BIOS mix up with both though, book says L and S have 1.00 or 1.01 but Japanese ''might'' make a distinction and there are two cited, one is 1.00 and the other is 1.01. Maybe L and S?
 
*Victor JX1-L and S – Not sure which is which, since long box is said to be L in book while Japanese sites shows a square box, but that one doesn’t make a distinction between L and S, so both might be right. Again there’s the BIOS mix up with both though, book says L and S have 1.00 or 1.01 but Japanese ''might'' make a distinction and there are two cited, one is 1.00 and the other is 1.01. Maybe L and S?
 
*Hitachi MMP-1 – Confusing release date, went with the one on the book (01-04-1995 VS 22-04-1995).
 
*Hitachi MMP-1 – Confusing release date, went with the one on the book (01-04-1995 VS 22-04-1995).
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*Navi – Several info in the Japanese site which can help enrich the article. Seems like the LCD could be bought separetly, or it came in a different box?
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*Navi – Several info in the Japanese site which can help enrich the article. Seems like the LCD could be bought separately, or it came in a different box?
 
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Anybody know of the SPC-ST? Its for Samsung Saturn models, and between SPC-ST and SPC-ST2 there is a cost diffrence. But, there is no proper picture of SPC-ST!  
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Anybody know of the SPC-ST? Its for Samsung Saturn models, and between SPC-ST and SPC-ST2 there is a cost difference. But, there is no proper picture of SPC-ST!  
 
http://comandgame.tistory.com/60 - Slimer/ 아힝흥행
 
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I would like to request a small fix in the main article: Brazilian PAL-M, despite being called PAL, it is, in fact, a kind of modified NTSC standard. PAL-M works at 60hz, 525 scan lines and 29.97 interlaced frames, just like NTSC. The only difference is the encoding of the color carrier. Because of this, to convert US console imports (and Japanese too) was kinda easy and needed since in the 80's and 90's Brazilian TV sets capable of handle both NTSC and PAL-M was rare, resulting in black and white image but with none of the side effects of the European PAL running in NTSC TVs like stretched image and odd frame rate.
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Also, to make things easier, all TecToy consoles released here were, in fact, based entirely in the USA versions (Master System, Mega Drive and its addons, Saturn and Dreamcast) with the minor modification to make them able to work in PAL-M. SEGA TecToy consoles are fully compatible with games released in USA. They are also fully compatible with Japanese games which does not contains regional lock.
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Back in the 90's (around 1989-1991), Japanese Mega Drives were kinda common here between luckier kids that could import them (most of them came from Paraguay, including tons of counterfeit mega drive carts.) and spend even a bit less bucks than the Mega Drive made by TecToy. When some hot titles released by Tectoy appeared with regional lockout, those Japanese imports gained some bad fame here since, depending of where you lived, it was impossible to find a technician able to install a region switch in your console.
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Japanese imported Sega Saturn got better luck since it was easy to buy it already with the regional switch installed, the same goes for the USA imported consoles. European PAL consoles here gives the same issues experienced by USA or Japanese gamers in their countries, so they are ultra rare here. TecToy Saturn ones was less desired for those one who desired to play backups because the mod chip used in those models was costs more than double than the mod chips used in USA and Japanese Saturn at that time.

Revision as of 19:59, 29 November 2013

After some brooding over this, I finally remembered the problem I had encountered when I added most of the models. It’s about the white Saturn, model 1. I never found much information about it but the fact that it exists and a couple of scattered images. The designation is a mystery too. Confirmation of existence: http://segasaturn.co.uk/hardware/sega_saturn_consoles.html amongst others. Never posted the sources either, here we go. Sources:

Someone with some knowledge of Japanese please check it, as the second site is in Japanese and there is stuff I can’t figure it out. Besides that, conflicting info that I came across with:

  • HST-0001 – From the sources I pulled, the book tells me there were two 0001, HST-3200 and HST-3210 and it also mentions two versions for the BIOS, which I suppose it’s for 3200 and 3210. The Japanese site says HST-0001 is HST-3200 and has BIOS 1.00 while HST-0004 is HST-3210 and has BIOS 1.01. I thought book was right and put it up (since it has Sega sources after all) but I still think Japanese site makes more sense.
  • Victor JX1-L and S – Not sure which is which, since long box is said to be L in book while Japanese sites shows a square box, but that one doesn’t make a distinction between L and S, so both might be right. Again there’s the BIOS mix up with both though, book says L and S have 1.00 or 1.01 but Japanese might make a distinction and there are two cited, one is 1.00 and the other is 1.01. Maybe L and S?
  • Hitachi MMP-1 – Confusing release date, went with the one on the book (01-04-1995 VS 22-04-1995).
  • Navi – Several info in the Japanese site which can help enrich the article. Seems like the LCD could be bought separately, or it came in a different box?

0r4ng3 15:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


I thought it was established that the Samsung Master System and Mega Drive were not bootlegs? - Andlabs 06:51, 11 November 2011 (CST)

Anybody know of the SPC-ST? Its for Samsung Saturn models, and between SPC-ST and SPC-ST2 there is a cost difference. But, there is no proper picture of SPC-ST! http://comandgame.tistory.com/60 - Slimer/ 아힝흥행

I would like to request a small fix in the main article: Brazilian PAL-M, despite being called PAL, it is, in fact, a kind of modified NTSC standard. PAL-M works at 60hz, 525 scan lines and 29.97 interlaced frames, just like NTSC. The only difference is the encoding of the color carrier. Because of this, to convert US console imports (and Japanese too) was kinda easy and needed since in the 80's and 90's Brazilian TV sets capable of handle both NTSC and PAL-M was rare, resulting in black and white image but with none of the side effects of the European PAL running in NTSC TVs like stretched image and odd frame rate.

Also, to make things easier, all TecToy consoles released here were, in fact, based entirely in the USA versions (Master System, Mega Drive and its addons, Saturn and Dreamcast) with the minor modification to make them able to work in PAL-M. SEGA TecToy consoles are fully compatible with games released in USA. They are also fully compatible with Japanese games which does not contains regional lock.

Back in the 90's (around 1989-1991), Japanese Mega Drives were kinda common here between luckier kids that could import them (most of them came from Paraguay, including tons of counterfeit mega drive carts.) and spend even a bit less bucks than the Mega Drive made by TecToy. When some hot titles released by Tectoy appeared with regional lockout, those Japanese imports gained some bad fame here since, depending of where you lived, it was impossible to find a technician able to install a region switch in your console.

Japanese imported Sega Saturn got better luck since it was easy to buy it already with the regional switch installed, the same goes for the USA imported consoles. European PAL consoles here gives the same issues experienced by USA or Japanese gamers in their countries, so they are ultra rare here. TecToy Saturn ones was less desired for those one who desired to play backups because the mod chip used in those models was costs more than double than the mod chips used in USA and Japanese Saturn at that time.

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