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+ | *It's already kinda mentioned, but rewrite/tie together/segue between the hearings and the subsequent fallout in other countries (i.e. banned in Germany etc) | ||
+ | *Mention how at least four (likely a few more) separate published attempts at transcribing Night Trap's theme song have been made, and how none of them actually got it (and why these attempts exist: cause it's a very well-composed and performed theme). Mention the reason why (Mega-CD compression, recording peaks), the one verse in question, and maybe (only because it's relevant in this cause) the actual lyrics. (listed below) | ||
+ | *Fill out Versions section with the game's various ports, and the remaster etc. Also the various soundtrack/7" releases. | ||
+ | *There's a decent amount more to be added to the Development section. | ||
+ | [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 05:36, 28 September 2021 (EDT) | ||
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+ | ===Hearings stuff=== | ||
+ | *This is more for the eventual 1993 congress. hearing article, but briefly summarize SoA's strategy, how they flubbed and mistook the Super Scope for the Menacer, and how he didn't really look too confident but did an okay job (but didn't help Sega's case much), and contrast that to how Lincoln knocked it out of the fin park (he was a super talented lawyer, after all.) I mean he basically maneuvered himself onto congress' side by playing to their moral watchdog personalities; he kinda became one, and made Nintendo look spotless in comparison to the guilty Sega, to the point where Nintendo was appearing as more of a watchdog than even congress did. BUT he was also smart enough to not go as far as to push congress to want federal regulation, kinda by painting Nintendo with the squeaky clean "we work hard on our policing so kids can expand their minds" angle, allowing room for congress to go "oh yeah, this isn't all devil work, games can be beneficial and we probably can't go about doing this anyway cause the first amendment". | ||
+ | *On that note, once the Hearings article is up, get a MainArticle to it from the section here. | ||
+ | *Mention about how games used to be limited to such (relatively) primitive graphics where light childhood trauma from violence and gore wasn't reallllyyy an issue, and how now that games are on CDs and can use real video, you can put whatever you want on it, and as much as the moral panic was ridiculous, it's not unreasonable to want to have conversations about that yknow. on THAT note.... | ||
+ | *Talk about the other side of this, and summarize the following subjective rant into something objective and workable: While this controversy is largely pointless, there's one part that's always stuck with me, and I've seen a lot of other people share similar feelings. And it's exactly what Lincoln's home run swung for: Night Trap wasn't marked as being a B-horror movie, and children (through ignorant parents) could have purchased it thinking it was just another pixels and beeps game. And then it's a horror movie. A toothless one sure, but.- and of course we're talking about households that are, again, generally so ignorant as to buy this expensive new CD game on this expensive new CD console AND not know what you're sitting your kid down in front of. BUT, I don't know. I guess a small part of me gets where he's coming from with the whole "this should've had some marking to indicate it was radically different and probably not fit for children" thing. Again, there are so many steps that would need to be overcome to even arrive at that point. But I don't know. A campy horror movie is still kinda a horror movie, and for SoA to release this into a market that hadn't really seen "video" in video games just seems a liiiiittle bit careless. Not harmfully careless, Night Trap is still only a few steps above Ernest Saves Halloween, but man. I wonder if theyd have just slapped some goofy "For adults!" or "An interactive horror movie" somewhere on the package, maybe they couldve avoided all this. Still, at the end of the day, this is just politicians looking for votes, and I shouldn't be thinking into this too much. | ||
+ | [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 05:26, 28 September 2021 (EDT) | ||
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==The empty box== | ==The empty box== | ||
− | So the little rewrite I just did does a decent job at driving the whole "This game is a campy haha movie that congress was so ignorant to that they thought it was a snuff film." point across, but I don't know. There's a lot to cover, and the summary needs to touch on quite a few points. I think what I'd like to see more strongly-presented is basically like... ''"There was nothing in the box. Congress and American parents and the media said there was a bad thing in this, and everyone just trusted them and wanted to burn it, to the point where American politics got its proverbial pitchforks out, AND NO ONE JUST OPENED THE BOX."'' I think that's the craziest/cringiest/most embarrassing point. There's such a dichotomy between what Night Trap actually is and the Night Trap they were talking about that it might as well be a completely different game. Kind of that feeling you get when someone starts talking about something that YOU know really well, and you know they're making EVERYTHING up, but instead of it being a casual conversation, these are politicians threatening to derail the development of an entire medium of art so they can get more votes. | + | So the little rewrite I just did does a decent job at driving the whole "This game is a campy haha movie that congress was so ignorant to that they thought it was a snuff film." point across, but I don't know. There's a lot to cover, and the summary needs to touch on quite a few points. I think what I'd like to see more strongly-presented is basically like... ''"There was nothing in the box. Congress and American parents and the media said there was a bad thing in this, and everyone just trusted them and wanted to burn it, to the point where American politics got its proverbial pitchforks out, AND NO ONE JUST OPENED THE BOX AND SAW THAT IT WAS EMPTY ALL ALONG."'' I think that's the craziest/cringiest/most embarrassing point. There's such a dichotomy between what Night Trap actually is and the Night Trap they were talking about that it might as well be a completely different game. Kind of that feeling you get when someone starts talking about something that YOU know really well, and you know they're making EVERYTHING up, but instead of it being a casual conversation, these are politicians threatening to derail the development of an entire medium of art so they can get more votes. |
− | There was nothing in the box. And its infuriating. Also maybe something about how all this effing flurry of dumbshit surrounded this game, and it's just like, an okay game. Kind of hilarious how an innocent campy B-movie can expose how hotly ignorant America can be. ANYWAY. Thoughts for the future, work some of these ramblings into something objective. [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 01:26, 28 September 2021 (EDT) | + | There was nothing in the box. And its infuriating. Also maybe something about how all this effing flurry of dumbshit surrounded this game, and it's just like, an okay game. Kind of hilarious how an innocent campy B-movie can expose how hotly ignorant America can be. ANYWAY. Thoughts for the future, work some of these ramblings into something objective. |
+ | [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 01:26, 28 September 2021 (EDT) | ||
==''Night Trap Theme'' lyrics== | ==''Night Trap Theme'' lyrics== |
Latest revision as of 04:44, 28 September 2021
To do
- It's already kinda mentioned, but rewrite/tie together/segue between the hearings and the subsequent fallout in other countries (i.e. banned in Germany etc)
- Mention how at least four (likely a few more) separate published attempts at transcribing Night Trap's theme song have been made, and how none of them actually got it (and why these attempts exist: cause it's a very well-composed and performed theme). Mention the reason why (Mega-CD compression, recording peaks), the one verse in question, and maybe (only because it's relevant in this cause) the actual lyrics. (listed below)
- Fill out Versions section with the game's various ports, and the remaster etc. Also the various soundtrack/7" releases.
- There's a decent amount more to be added to the Development section.
CartridgeCulture (talk) 05:36, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
Hearings stuff
- This is more for the eventual 1993 congress. hearing article, but briefly summarize SoA's strategy, how they flubbed and mistook the Super Scope for the Menacer, and how he didn't really look too confident but did an okay job (but didn't help Sega's case much), and contrast that to how Lincoln knocked it out of the fin park (he was a super talented lawyer, after all.) I mean he basically maneuvered himself onto congress' side by playing to their moral watchdog personalities; he kinda became one, and made Nintendo look spotless in comparison to the guilty Sega, to the point where Nintendo was appearing as more of a watchdog than even congress did. BUT he was also smart enough to not go as far as to push congress to want federal regulation, kinda by painting Nintendo with the squeaky clean "we work hard on our policing so kids can expand their minds" angle, allowing room for congress to go "oh yeah, this isn't all devil work, games can be beneficial and we probably can't go about doing this anyway cause the first amendment".
- On that note, once the Hearings article is up, get a MainArticle to it from the section here.
- Mention about how games used to be limited to such (relatively) primitive graphics where light childhood trauma from violence and gore wasn't reallllyyy an issue, and how now that games are on CDs and can use real video, you can put whatever you want on it, and as much as the moral panic was ridiculous, it's not unreasonable to want to have conversations about that yknow. on THAT note....
- Talk about the other side of this, and summarize the following subjective rant into something objective and workable: While this controversy is largely pointless, there's one part that's always stuck with me, and I've seen a lot of other people share similar feelings. And it's exactly what Lincoln's home run swung for: Night Trap wasn't marked as being a B-horror movie, and children (through ignorant parents) could have purchased it thinking it was just another pixels and beeps game. And then it's a horror movie. A toothless one sure, but.- and of course we're talking about households that are, again, generally so ignorant as to buy this expensive new CD game on this expensive new CD console AND not know what you're sitting your kid down in front of. BUT, I don't know. I guess a small part of me gets where he's coming from with the whole "this should've had some marking to indicate it was radically different and probably not fit for children" thing. Again, there are so many steps that would need to be overcome to even arrive at that point. But I don't know. A campy horror movie is still kinda a horror movie, and for SoA to release this into a market that hadn't really seen "video" in video games just seems a liiiiittle bit careless. Not harmfully careless, Night Trap is still only a few steps above Ernest Saves Halloween, but man. I wonder if theyd have just slapped some goofy "For adults!" or "An interactive horror movie" somewhere on the package, maybe they couldve avoided all this. Still, at the end of the day, this is just politicians looking for votes, and I shouldn't be thinking into this too much.
CartridgeCulture (talk) 05:26, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
The empty box
So the little rewrite I just did does a decent job at driving the whole "This game is a campy haha movie that congress was so ignorant to that they thought it was a snuff film." point across, but I don't know. There's a lot to cover, and the summary needs to touch on quite a few points. I think what I'd like to see more strongly-presented is basically like... "There was nothing in the box. Congress and American parents and the media said there was a bad thing in this, and everyone just trusted them and wanted to burn it, to the point where American politics got its proverbial pitchforks out, AND NO ONE JUST OPENED THE BOX AND SAW THAT IT WAS EMPTY ALL ALONG." I think that's the craziest/cringiest/most embarrassing point. There's such a dichotomy between what Night Trap actually is and the Night Trap they were talking about that it might as well be a completely different game. Kind of that feeling you get when someone starts talking about something that YOU know really well, and you know they're making EVERYTHING up, but instead of it being a casual conversation, these are politicians threatening to derail the development of an entire medium of art so they can get more votes.
There was nothing in the box. And its infuriating. Also maybe something about how all this effing flurry of dumbshit surrounded this game, and it's just like, an okay game. Kind of hilarious how an innocent campy B-movie can expose how hotly ignorant America can be. ANYWAY. Thoughts for the future, work some of these ramblings into something objective. CartridgeCulture (talk) 01:26, 28 September 2021 (EDT)
Night Trap Theme lyrics
- Love is easy by the light of day
- You get the boys to play away
- But at sundown when darkness falls
- Passion burns but danger calls
- So girls go out only if you dare
- You'd better be good, you'd better beware
- Night Trap
- Bad boys will find you
- Night Trap
- Watch out behind you
- Night Trap
- Girls if you try to make it right
- You'll be caught in the night
- Night Trap
- Night Trap
- Bad boys will find you
- Night Trap
- Watch out behind you
- Night Trap
- Girls if you try to make it right
- You'll get caught in the night
- You'll get caught in the night
- In the Night Trap
- Night Trap
For whoever cares. CartridgeCulture (talk) 09:20, 21 September 2021 (EDT)