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*Hm. So there are more games? And they have... software codes, and were available separately. Look into eventually converting this article to a proper system, and creating subpages for the separate games.
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*Also for the above, how were these games distributed? USB sticks? What does the system actually run, OS-wise?
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[[:Category:Toylet games]] and [[:Category:Toylet hardware]] need to have the word Toylet corrected to Toylets (with an s), but that involves correcting its name in whatever list is called by Bob and ConsoleBob. Once done, delete both old categories and create correctly-named ones.
*Section about other interactive urinals, a very brief history of the idea, and most importantly the note that while all the rest of these were more or less art projects/experiments/etc, the Toylet was really the first that was like, an actual product. I mean its still kinda in the realm of like "limited release" etc, but this was the most legitimate push in this concept.
 
*Do Toylet games have... balance? I always assumed this was just like "make the software interactive to a point, and with a slight degree of varied input", but- do these games actually have designed balance and stuff? Like can you- "play" these games with skill? Obviously you can miss the target or get less than someone else, but is there a way to- urinate optimally but still perform poorly skill-wise? Do you have to learn any kind of gameplay mechanics to get- better at these? BASICALLY: Did someone go through the "higher levels" of this game and actually give consideration to the detailed balance? And if they did, to what degree?
 
*So the words "Free Play" are visible on most screenshots of Toylet games. Now I assume this is just telling users "hey, I know this LOOKS like an arcade game or something but we're not actually going to charge you for anything related to taking a piss, so have fun." Which I also assume is both the system's default mode and/or one most chosen by most installations. But I wonder- is there any kind of option for - paid play? Like "okay you can still totally take a piss, but swipe your card real quick and you get to play a unique game while doing it." Which is ever weirder imagining the setup- like "man I really gotta go but ooh videogames, lemme clench this real quick while I dig out my credit card and swipe it and punch in my pin and like thirty seconds later Im ready to play, but thirty seconds is probably how long my piss would have taken". So yeah, maybe just there for reassurance but iunno.
 
*Something about how the design more or less conceals the fact that there's a sensor pointed towards player's - "handheld interfaces", and its importance in approaching something of this nature. And that they then undid a lot of that design by featuring another massive and this-time visible sensor pointed towards players' chests.
 
*Games were about $125, system was about $1750.
 
*Looks like there was a 10 yen coin box attachment.
 
*There was an additional piece of the system I'm seeing, just a variation on the screen that houses it in a clean frosted-glass enclosure (see [https://external-preview.redd.it/vWxvz_N4WiNsLxpPZKS98hjhvgzzltdkYXp7IBPBjSI.jpg?auto=webp&s=5b818b239292630e159842ef8b4c73234c2fcefb here] and [http://media.techeblog.com/images/sega_urinal_game.jpg here] for examples).
 
*Sales ended in May 2016 (both main unit and software), maintenance ended in March 2021. [http://toylets.sega.jp/images/toylets_info20160621.pdf ref].
 
[[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 01:52, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
 
  
 
==Product codes==
 
==Product codes==
*(SLS07E990513005): Screen?
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*(SLS07E990513005): [[Toylets]]
*(SLS07E990513006): Unknown hardware
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*(SLS07E990513006): Unknown (frosted glass cover?)
*(SLS07E990513007): Unknown hardware
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*(SLS07E990513007): Unknown (mounting stand?)
*(SLS07E990513008): ''[[Mannekin Pis]]''
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*(SLS07E990513008): ''[[Collect! Manneken Pis]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513009): ''[[Splash Battle! Milky Nose]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513009): ''[[Splash Battle! Milky Nose]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513010): ''[[The North Wind and The Sun... And Me]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513010): ''[[The North Wind and The Sun... And Me]]''
*(SLS07E990513011): The quiz show game.
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*(SLS07E990513011): ''[[Panel Quiz Super Urine~Power]]''
*(SLS07E990513012): The rhythm game.
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*(SLS07E990513012): ''[[At the Urine Checker]]''
*(SLS07E990513013): 10 yen coin box attachment.
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*(SLS07E990513013): Coin box
*(SLS07E9905130XX): ''[[Graffiti Eraser]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130??): ''[[Collect! Manneken Pis: Deluxe Edition]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130??): ''[[Milk from the Nose: Banchou Battle]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130??): ''[[Graffiti Eraser]]''
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==Change name to Toylets==
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A lot of English sites that reported on the system named it Toylet, but that's pretty obviously not what it's indented to be called. If it were called トイレット (Toiretto), then that spells out Toylet, but it's called トイレッツ (Toirettsu). The website has it as toylets, and the assets for the game's entry on SEGA ARCADE GAME HISTORY also call it toylets. That seem alright? I almost moved the page, but maybe just the fact that English-speaking journalists called it Toylet is reason enough to keep it as such. If it does get changed, though, the articles should probably also be rewritten to use "Toylets" instead of "the Toylet".
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[[User:Nicolaas Hamman|Nicolaas Hamman]] ([[User talk:Nicolaas Hamman|talk]]) 11:24, 11 March 2023 (GMT+2)
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::I think you're right, it probably needs a name change. I'll go ahead and do the moves for this one :) Question though. What do you think we should use as a singular noun? Like to occasionally refer to a single piece of hardware? [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 00:26, 12 March 2023 (EST)
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:::I'm not really sure. ''Yakuza Kiwami 2'' has ''Toylets'' (even an English logo), so I suppose that's the best we've got for official terminology. As far as I know, it never calls it Toylet, just Toylets, even as a singular, e.g. "Toylets may be a urinal device, but promoting bathroom cleanliness is actually its key feature!" [[User:Nicolaas Hamman|Nicolaas Hamman]] ([[User talk:Nicolaas Hamman|talk]]) 09:32, 13 March 2023 (GMT+2)

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Category:Toylet games and Category:Toylet hardware need to have the word Toylet corrected to Toylets (with an s), but that involves correcting its name in whatever list is called by Bob and ConsoleBob. Once done, delete both old categories and create correctly-named ones.

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Change name to Toylets

A lot of English sites that reported on the system named it Toylet, but that's pretty obviously not what it's indented to be called. If it were called トイレット (Toiretto), then that spells out Toylet, but it's called トイレッツ (Toirettsu). The website has it as toylets, and the assets for the game's entry on SEGA ARCADE GAME HISTORY also call it toylets. That seem alright? I almost moved the page, but maybe just the fact that English-speaking journalists called it Toylet is reason enough to keep it as such. If it does get changed, though, the articles should probably also be rewritten to use "Toylets" instead of "the Toylet". Nicolaas Hamman (talk) 11:24, 11 March 2023 (GMT+2)

I think you're right, it probably needs a name change. I'll go ahead and do the moves for this one :) Question though. What do you think we should use as a singular noun? Like to occasionally refer to a single piece of hardware? CartridgeCulture (talk) 00:26, 12 March 2023 (EST)
I'm not really sure. Yakuza Kiwami 2 has Toylets (even an English logo), so I suppose that's the best we've got for official terminology. As far as I know, it never calls it Toylet, just Toylets, even as a singular, e.g. "Toylets may be a urinal device, but promoting bathroom cleanliness is actually its key feature!" Nicolaas Hamman (talk) 09:32, 13 March 2023 (GMT+2)