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*Replace ''Manneken Pis'' image with the title screen.
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*Create a proper Toylet icon template page.
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[[:Category:Toylet games]] and [[:Category:Toylet hardware]] need to have the word Toylet corrected to Toylets (with an s), but that involves correcting its name in whatever list is called by Bob and ConsoleBob. Once done, delete both old categories and create correctly-named ones.
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*Create Toylet omni.
 
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*Create section about cost, Free Play mode, and the 10 yen coin box.
 
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*Create section about hardware design, how it mostly conceals the downward-facing sensor, why that's important for this kind of product. And how they undid a lot of that concealment with the front-facing infrared "user detector" sensor.
 
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*Create section about interactive urinals, brief history of the idea, and that while virtually all previous attempts were art projects/very limited release, the Toylet was really the first that was an actual sold product for installation anywhere, and with customer support for over a decade.
 
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*Create individual game pages and convert this system to a proper systembob.
 
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*Research game distribution method (USB sticks?) and what OS the system actually runs and is most equivalent to for comparison.
 
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*Research the degree of balance which Toylet's games actually have. Many appear to be simple "push harder for bigger number" games, but I'm curious as to whether AM1 went in and gave significant consideration to the intricacies of the gameplay balance... does it get harder in "higher levels"?
 
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*Research how many games could be played on a Toylet at once, and if the system even offered the ability to change between games.
 
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*Tag all Toylet-related images with relevant tags.
 
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*Games were about $125, system was about $1750.
 
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*Looks like there was a 10 yen coin box attachment.
 
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*There was an additional piece of the system I'm seeing, just a variation on the screen that houses it in a clean frosted-glass enclosure (see [https://external-preview.redd.it/vWxvz_N4WiNsLxpPZKS98hjhvgzzltdkYXp7IBPBjSI.jpg?auto=webp&s=5b818b239292630e159842ef8b4c73234c2fcefb here] and [http://media.techeblog.com/images/sega_urinal_game.jpg here] for examples).
 
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*Sales ended in May 2016 (both main unit and software), maintenance ended in March 2021. [http://toylets.sega.jp/images/toylets_info20160621.pdf ref].
 
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*The official website lists a total of 180 installed locations in Japan. The real count is likely much higher than that, both depending on when they stopped updating that page and the amount of non-listed, private, or second-hand installations.
 
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*So I'm seeing NOTHING for Graffiti Eraser. No promos, no ads, no press releases. We have- almost one screenshot (its cropped), some off-camera footage, and a few mentions from news articles around its trade show appearances/launch. Which is curious, because its easily the most interactive and game-like experience, but even I ended up writing a thing about how its the game which could cause the most "spills". Is there any correlation here? Did Sega have this great idea on paper (and its a honkin great idea imo), but then in implementation realized people were whipping their- "handheld interfaces" back and forth and getting urine outside of the basin? And then reeled it out of most promotional material? I don't know, maybe it's just not popping up much, but there really needs to be verification of any correlation between gameplay and decreased bathroom cleanliness here.
 
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*A dedicated section on Toylet's less as an upgrade to an existing installed toilet and more as an investment in a promotable attraction. I touched on this previously but the more I do research, people were installing Toylets left and right for their notoriety. To such an extent that the official website lists a section of reviews/thoughts from venue owners post-installation, and the majority are saying that their customers are specifically coming in to experience the Toylets. One even called it a "show/event in the bathroom". Which isn't far off. Hey if I was anywhere and someone told me theyve got a toilet game, I'll whip my - "handheld interface" out right then and there and start Erasing some Graffiti.
 
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*Owners are saying it reduces both maintenance AND mischief/vandalism/etc in bathrooms. Which I can totally see. Most bathrooms are solid concrete indestructible things, but then you walk into a Toylet-equipped restroom and its suddenly like oh there's a dedicated system here and there are wires and electronics everywhere, and I feel like all of that kinda contributes to a slight "no broken windows" thing.
 
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[[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 01:52, 3 November 2021 (EDT)
 
  
 
==Product codes==
 
==Product codes==
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*(SLS07E990513005): Screen?
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*(SLS07E990513005): [[Toylets]]
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*(SLS07E990513006): Unknown hardware
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*(SLS07E990513006): Unknown (frosted glass cover?)
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*(SLS07E990513007): Unknown hardware
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*(SLS07E990513007): Unknown (mounting stand?)
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*(SLS07E990513008): ''[[Mannekin Pis]]''
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*(SLS07E990513008): ''[[Collect! Manneken Pis]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513009): ''[[Splash Battle! Milky Nose]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513009): ''[[Splash Battle! Milky Nose]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513010): ''[[The North Wind and The Sun... And Me]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513010): ''[[The North Wind and The Sun... And Me]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513011): ''[[Panel Quiz Super Urine~Power]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513011): ''[[Panel Quiz Super Urine~Power]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513012): ''[[At the Urine Checker]]''
 
*(SLS07E990513012): ''[[At the Urine Checker]]''
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*(SLS07E990513013): 10 yen coin box attachment.
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*(SLS07E990513013): Coin box
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*(SLS07E9905130XX): ''[[Collect! Manneken Pis: Deluxe Edition]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130??): ''[[Collect! Manneken Pis: Deluxe Edition]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130XX): ''[[Milk from the Nose: Banchou Battle]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130??): ''[[Milk from the Nose: Banchou Battle]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130XX): ''[[Graffiti Eraser]]''
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*(SLS07E9905130??): ''[[Graffiti Eraser]]''
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==Change name to Toylets==
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A lot of English sites that reported on the system named it Toylet, but that's pretty obviously not what it's indented to be called. If it were called トイレット (Toiretto), then that spells out Toylet, but it's called トイレッツ (Toirettsu). The website has it as toylets, and the assets for the game's entry on SEGA ARCADE GAME HISTORY also call it toylets. That seem alright? I almost moved the page, but maybe just the fact that English-speaking journalists called it Toylet is reason enough to keep it as such. If it does get changed, though, the articles should probably also be rewritten to use "Toylets" instead of "the Toylet".
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[[User:Nicolaas Hamman|Nicolaas Hamman]] ([[User talk:Nicolaas Hamman|talk]]) 11:24, 11 March 2023 (GMT+2)
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::I think you're right, it probably needs a name change. I'll go ahead and do the moves for this one :) Question though. What do you think we should use as a singular noun? Like to occasionally refer to a single piece of hardware? [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 00:26, 12 March 2023 (EST)
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:::I'm not really sure. ''Yakuza Kiwami 2'' has ''Toylets'' (even an English logo), so I suppose that's the best we've got for official terminology. As far as I know, it never calls it Toylet, just Toylets, even as a singular, e.g. "Toylets may be a urinal device, but promoting bathroom cleanliness is actually its key feature!" [[User:Nicolaas Hamman|Nicolaas Hamman]] ([[User talk:Nicolaas Hamman|talk]]) 09:32, 13 March 2023 (GMT+2)

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Category:Toylet games and Category:Toylet hardware need to have the word Toylet corrected to Toylets (with an s), but that involves correcting its name in whatever list is called by Bob and ConsoleBob. Once done, delete both old categories and create correctly-named ones.

Product codes

Change name to Toylets

A lot of English sites that reported on the system named it Toylet, but that's pretty obviously not what it's indented to be called. If it were called トイレット (Toiretto), then that spells out Toylet, but it's called トイレッツ (Toirettsu). The website has it as toylets, and the assets for the game's entry on SEGA ARCADE GAME HISTORY also call it toylets. That seem alright? I almost moved the page, but maybe just the fact that English-speaking journalists called it Toylet is reason enough to keep it as such. If it does get changed, though, the articles should probably also be rewritten to use "Toylets" instead of "the Toylet". Nicolaas Hamman (talk) 11:24, 11 March 2023 (GMT+2)

I think you're right, it probably needs a name change. I'll go ahead and do the moves for this one :) Question though. What do you think we should use as a singular noun? Like to occasionally refer to a single piece of hardware? CartridgeCulture (talk) 00:26, 12 March 2023 (EST)
I'm not really sure. Yakuza Kiwami 2 has Toylets (even an English logo), so I suppose that's the best we've got for official terminology. As far as I know, it never calls it Toylet, just Toylets, even as a singular, e.g. "Toylets may be a urinal device, but promoting bathroom cleanliness is actually its key feature!" Nicolaas Hamman (talk) 09:32, 13 March 2023 (GMT+2)
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