Company

Heads up

Not that I know what the solution is, but, Star Trek:

Sega Electronics

This might not look so hot. Although given that it already looks like that (albeit with spaces between the icons), maybe it's fine. -Black Squirrel (talk) 14:11, 27 November 2018 (CST)

There is the option to hide icons:

Sega Electronics

Also, if you don't specify the system, it'll grab whatever's in the template:bob system list (for the cargo table only; no icons are displayed in that case). I could add an option to use text instead of icons with "|icons=text". - Hivebrain (talk) 15:52, 27 November 2018 (CST)

Pages to use this template

May contain false positives. - Hivebrain (talk) 20:44, 20 November 2018 (CST)

005 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd. (Japan))
005 (company: Sega/Gremlin (US))
100 & Medal Geki Kazaan!! (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
100 & Medal Geki Kazaan!! (company: Sega R&D1 (2011-2015))
100 & Medal Gingaan!! (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
100 & Medal Gingaan!! (company: Sega R&D1 (2011-2015))
100 & Medal Hyozaan!! (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
100 & Medal Hyozaan!! (company: Sega R&D1 (2011-2015))
100 & Medal Kazaan!! (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
100 & Medal Kazaan!! (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
14K (company: 14K Products (14K Posse))
16 Zhang Mahjong (company: Jumbo (company))
18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (company: Sega Mechatro (Deluxe Cabinet))
1992 Sega Genesis Buyer:sqm:s Guide (company: Mega_Play_(magazine))
1993 Sega Genesis Game Directory (company: Mega Play (magazine))
2 Games in 1: Sonic Advance & ChuChu Rocket! (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
2 Games in 1: Sonic Advance & Sonic Battle (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
2 Games in 1: Sonic Pinball Party & Sonic Battle (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
2 Spicy (company: Sega AM1 (2005-2011))
360 (magazine) (company: Imagine Publishing (UK))
3D After Burner II (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Altered Beast (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Ecco the Dolphin (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Fantasy Zone II W (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Fantasy Zone: Opa-Opa Bros. (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Galaxy Force II (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D OutRun (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Shinobi III (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Sonic the Hedgehog (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Space Harrier (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Streets of Rage (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Super Hang-On (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
3D Thunder Blade (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de Taikenban (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
7th Dragon (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
7th Dragon 2020 (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
7th Dragon 2020-II (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
8-Bit Bayonetta (company: Bitbaboon (Steam))
8-Bit Bayonetta (company: Bitbaboon (Steam))
8-Bit Bayonetta (company: Sega (Steam))
8-Bit Bayonetta (company: Sega (Steam))
8kB RAM Adapter (company: Jumbo (company))
Action 52 (company: Nu Romantic Productions (sound))
Advanced World War: Sennen Teikoku no Koubou (company: Sega CS2 (1996-1999))
Aero Elite: Combat Academy (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
Aero Elite: Combat Academy (company: Sega-AM2 (company))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega AM2 (2004-2011))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega AM2 (2004-2011))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega AM2 (2004-2011))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
After Burner Climax (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
After Burner II (mobile) (company: Sega Ages (mobile))
After Burner II (mobile) (company: Sega Ages (mobile))
After Burner II (mobile) (company: Sega Ages (mobile))
Ai Sareruyori Ai Shitai: The House of the Dead EX (company: Sega (Shanghai) Software)
Ai Sareruyori Ai Shitai: The House of the Dead EX (company: Sega AM1 (2005-2011))
Ai Sareruyori Ai Shitai: The House of the Dead EX (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
Air Trix (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
Aleste Collection (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Aleste Collection (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))
Alexandria Bloodshow (company: Sega R&D1 (2011-2015))
Algor (company: LIST (Italy))
Alice Gear Aegis CS: Concerto of Simulatrix (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alice Gear Aegis CS: Concerto of Simulatrix (company: Sega Corporation (2020))
Alien Front (company: Sega Corporation (2000-2015))

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005 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
005 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd. (Japan))
119 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
16 Zhang Mahjong II (company: City Man Technology Co., Ltd.)
16t (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
21 Pin RGB Cable (Saturn) (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
3 Way Block (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
3 Way Block (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
3-Way Bingo (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
3-Way Bingo (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
4-D Warriors (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
48 Hrs. (company: Sega Enterprises, Inc.)
48 Hrs. (company: Sega Enterprises, Inc.)
5 Line Pay (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
5 Line Pay (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
6000-nin no Sensei-tachi ga Tsukutta Tanoshii Shougakkou Tanken 1 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
6000-nin no Sensei-tachi ga Tsukutta Tanoshii Shougakkou Tanken 1 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
A Ressha de Ikou MD (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
A Year at Pooh Corner (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
A.B. Cop (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
A.B. Cop (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
A/X-101 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Aa Harimanada (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Aa Harimanada (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
AC Adaptor (SA-150) (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ace Attacker (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced Daisenryaku 98 (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced Daisenryaku 98 II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced Daisenryaku 98 II Power Up Kit (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced Daisenryaku 98 Power Up Kit (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced Daisenryaku: Deutsch Dengeki Sakusen (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced Daisenryaku: Sturm über Europa - Der deutsche Blitzkrieg (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Advanced World War: Sennen Teikoku no Koubou (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Adventure (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Adventure (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Armageddon Gaiden: Majuu Toushouden Eclipse (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner Complete (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner II (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner III (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner III (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
After Burner III (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
AI Enikki (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ai to Yume no Kuni Sanrio Puroland Asobinagara Oboeyou! Hiragana Katakana (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ai to Yume no Kuni Sanrio Puroland Asobinagara Oboeyou! Hiragana Katakana (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ai to Yume no Kuni Sanrio Puroland Chanto Dekirukana Minna to Tanoshii o-Yuugikai (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ai to Yume no Kuni Sanrio Puroland Chanto Dekirukana Minna to Tanoshii o-Yuugikai (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ai to Yume to Bouken Sanrio Puroland! (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ai to Yume to Bouken Sanrio Puroland! (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air Attack (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air Attack (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air NiGHTS (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air NiGHTS (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air NiGHTS (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air NiGHTS (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Air Rescue (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Airline Pilots (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Airplane! (company: Sega Enterprises, Inc.)
Airplane! (company: Sega Enterprises, Inc.)
Akihabara Dennou-gumi Pata Pies! (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Albegas (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Albegas (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Alex Kidd BMX Trial (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Alex Kidd in Miracle World (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ali Baba (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ali Baba (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)
Ali Baba and 40 Thieves (company: Sega Enterprises, Ltd.)

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An idea

RE: I want to get rid of the originaldevelopers/originalpublishers fields.

Here's a thought - trees:

Double Dragon (development)

Technos Japan

Accolade

Arc System Works

Doom (32X) (development)

id Software

Sega of America

Even though development teams didn't necessarily work on Sega versions of a games, I think it's still important to credit them as developers, as they "developed" something that formed a foundation for the Sega port.

Tetris (publishing)

AcademySoft-ELORG
Mirrorsoft
Atari Games

Sega

Tengen

Sega

With publishers, those not directly involved in a port are probably more likely to be considered "licensors". You don't usually license a specific verison of a game though - just the IP, so no format icons needed.

This would neatly show the relationship between all the different companies involved, and the porting history without needing any more than two bob fields. The problem(?) is that it takes up a lot of space.

This way the licensor= field can be reserved for things like FIFA or Formula One - non-game properties.

-Black Squirrel (talk) 14:00, 23 December 2018 (CST)

I wonder if it might be better to make a new template for this stuff, and put it in the article itself (in the "Versions" section probably).

{{porttable|system=Arcade|company=[[Atari]]
|{{port|system=MD|company=|comment=|branch=1}}
|{{port|system=Steam|company=|comment=Emulation|branch=1.1}}
|{{port|system=PS3|company=|comment=Emulation|branch=1.2}}
|{{port|system=SMS|company=|comment=|branch=2}}
}}

This is just a quick idea. There might be better ways to do it. It could pull companies from the cargo table if "company=" is left blank. - Hivebrain (talk) 15:31, 23 December 2018 (CST)

Regions

This task is unfinished
This is a wiki task that requires more thought or peer review. An important issue that needs to be solved, which will appear at the top of Sega Retro:Todo until this message is removed.

I've spent four months putting the above off, but there's another issue that will need addressing:

Streets of Rage 2 Original Soundtrack

There needs to be a way of letting the cargo table know that there are two record labels responsible here, Alfa Records for Japan and Mars Colony Music for the US. Currently I think it adds the company name as "Alfa Records (JP), Mars Colony Music (US)" - something will need to be written so that there are two additions to the table, and the regions in brackets are stripped away (assuming we still want to use this sort of notation to denote region).

Incidentally this has no way of knowing if the music being published is on CD or cassette or vinyl or whatever. Doesn't matter a massive amount in this case because "recordlabel" is unique to music, but it breaks down when trying to do the same for videos (some of the early stuff was distributed on VHS, Betamax and LaserDisc - again there's only one addition to the table when ideally we'd want three).

I haven't looked at this properly because it's awkward and I hate it -Black Squirrel (talk) 14:22, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

{{company|[[Alfa Records]]|region=Japan}}, {{company|[[Mars Colony Music]]|region=US}} - This should work. There isn't a separate cargo column for regions, so it just saves the role as "Whatever (Japan)". If you want to specify a format then add "system=CD". I only wrote the template with games in mind, but it'll probably work for everything. - Hivebrain (talk) 14:50, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

lordy lord

I need some time to get my thoughts together, but I don't think this is working, both literally and figuratively.

See: trying to store and recall Model 3 games. I can't tell if it's the "step x.y" causing problems, or if the whole thing is becoming too confusing and unmaintainable. I suspect we'd be better off working in format codes for everything, but that might need a bob rethink.

In other news I'm not sure writing

====[[Mega Drive]]====
{{CompanyHistory|Sega AM2|format=Mega Drive}}

====[[Saturn]]====
{{CompanyHistory|Sega AM2|format=Saturn}}

====[[Dreamcast]]====
{{CompanyHistory|Sega AM2|format=Dreamcast}}

...

is really solving the whole "let's automate it so I don't have to type things" issue. I think I want to be able to do

{{CompanyHistory|Sega AM2}}

and get eeeeevvvvverrrrryything. But auto-generated headers haven't worked out cleanly in the past. Hmm. -Black Squirrel (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2020 (EST)

-Black Squirrel (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2020 (EST)

Okay I think I've fixed some bugs

Using template:company would evaulate MD as "Mega Drive". Not using it would set the system as "Sega Mega Drive" - I've got it to strip any instances of "Sega " in the latter case (except ST-V).
If only one system was specified in the bob and template:company was not used, nothing would be stored. It would only work if multiple systems were specified.

Check I ain't broke nout -Black Squirrel (talk) 14:16, 4 January 2020 (EST)

Things this isn't handling properly

Model 3 games (the Step x.y thing). Model 2A/2B/2C too.
Multi-platform dates - the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of Virtua Fighter 2 are coming through as 1994. Maybe because they're not being specified properly in pages?
there are problems if a game has more than one developer

-Black Squirrel (talk) 15:18, 4 January 2020 (EST)

Monday report

Dates seem fine now
Multiple developers are sort-of handled - things break if it encounters brackets and you're not using template:company as intended. Fought this for a bit (see template:StripBrackets) - brain hurts
there are false positives - Red Entertainment lists the wrong alias for the Dreamcast version of Sakura Taisen 2 and I don't know why.
My apologies to future code maintainers. For everything. -Black Squirrel (talk) 17:03, 6 January 2020 (EST)

Tuesday report

it's stopped paying attention to the "system" field, and is now adding all companies to all systems. How wonderful -Black Squirrel (talk) 15:59, 7 January 2020 (EST)

Template talk