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References guide

The following is a list of commonly-encountered References issues.

Notability: Most published or aired references to Sega are included. However, particularly in the Internet category, we require a certain level of notability for new entries.
Sponsorships: Any officially-sponsored references, such as award shows or motorsports events, belong in Sponsorships.
Recurring references: Any commonly-recurring references, such as a character in a television series, only need their first appearance listed. Ensure to note that said reference is a recurring one.
Multi-game shows: Any television series which cover numerous games by different companies, like GameCenter CX, only need their first reference covered. Ensure to list any future references in the same listing.
Hardware in Sonic references: If a reference features someone playing a Sonic game, and it shows them using hardware required to play the game (like a Control Pad (Mega Drive) or Game Gear), that reference doesn't need to be copied here as well.

To do

Rename to Film, Television, and Web?
Make a distinction between References and Sponsorships (may need content migrated between articles)?
Limit entries by notability?

Otto - Der Außerfriesische was co-financed by Sega. Check for product placement.
Solar Opposites - Saturn appearance.
Dream Team - Members of the Harchester United F.C. playing a Dreamcast.
London's Burning - Firefighters browsing the internet on a Dreamcast.
Two Guys and a Girl - Dreamcast in a character's apartment.
Cheaters - Dreamcast appearance.
Bodacious Space Pirates - Dreamcast appearance.

I found the scene of Dreamcast in London's Burning. I'll upload it tomorrow! - Deathscythe

Mr. Robot

The logo uses same font as Sega. Is that qualify to this page? Geti3220 (talk) 14:02, 22 May 2024 (EDT)

That's a really good question. One I had to research. And... I don't know, its hard to tell. On one hand, they're based on different fonts. On the other hand, the designer of the Mr. Robot font had to have known that a good majority of the audience is gonna see that logo and think "oh that's like the Sega logo." If anything, with the content of the show, it gives off less a Sega logo vibe and more.... a retro tech industry vibe? Maybe that's not the best way to describe it, but I think the design is referencing what the Sega logo was based on, more than the logo itself.

So in this case, its probably not a Sega ref, but I'm not super sure :) CartridgeCulture (talk) 21:55, 23 May 2024 (EDT)

References

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I think it might be worth splitting this into separate "film" and "television" pages, because turns out there's a lot of films and television shows.

but

I also think it might be a good idea to copy parts of Template:InfoTable/Template:InfoRow - have a thumbnail we can actually see (on the left, so it's consistent with other pages), and have the tabs for multiple screenshots.

It would be a relatively simple template for me to make, but I want to get more people involved in template creation and maintenance, so there's some backup should I get run over by a bus tomorrow. Jump in, have a go, make mistakes, etc. -Black Squirrel (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2024 (EST)

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-==To add==
+==References guide==
-===Print===
+The following is a list of commonly-encountered References issues.
-*Hajime no Ippo - Volume 34, Chapter 298, Page 5 to 9 feature a ''[[Virtua Fighter]]'' reference.{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20210123104840/https://virtuafighter.com/threads/virtua-fighter-references-in-pop-culture.15419/}}
-*Houshin Engi - VF is also referenced in Chapter 1 of the manga Houshin Engi. The main character gets reprimanded by his teacher, who does Lion's f,f P+G on him. The artist goes as far as adding the sound effect "Iiin!" and adding the commands above the name of the move. This manga is from the 90's, so it would have been during the VF2 or 3 era.{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20210123104840/https://virtuafighter.com/threads/virtua-fighter-references-in-pop-culture.15419/}}
-*Hayate the Combat Butler - In Volume 8, when the title character Hayate asked Nagi (his master) about how she trained her pet tiger Tama, this is her response: (image in ref){{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20210123104840/https://virtuafighter.com/threads/virtua-fighter-references-in-pop-culture.15419/}}
-===Video games===
+*'''Notability:''' Most published or aired references to Sega are included. However, particularly in the [[References to Sega/Internet|Internet]] category, we require a certain level of notability for new entries.
-*Super Robot Wars (games unknown) - Ryuusei Date, member of the SRX Team and pilot of the Personal Trooper R-1, has adapted some of ''[[Virtua Fighter]]'''s Akira's lines in his battle phrases. The character is voiced by the same voice actor as Akira.{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20210123104840/https://virtuafighter.com/threads/virtua-fighter-references-in-pop-culture.15419/}}
+*'''Sponsorships:''' Any officially-sponsored references, such as award shows or motorsports events, belong in [[Sponsorships]].
-*''[[Tenchi Muyou! Ryououki Gokuraku CD-ROM for Sega Saturn]]'' - There's a scene with the character Washuu in polygons doing Pai's crane stance win pose from VF1 and saying Akira's "Juu Nen Hayaindayo." The background in that scene looks a lot like Jacky stage from VF1.{{ref|https://web.archive.org/web/20210123104840/https://virtuafighter.com/threads/virtua-fighter-references-in-pop-culture.15419/}}
+*'''Recurring references:''' Any commonly-recurring references, such as a character in a television series, only need their first appearance listed. Ensure to note that said reference is a recurring one.
+*'''Multi-game shows:''' Any television series which cover numerous games by different companies, like ''[[wikipedia:GameCenter CX|GameCenter CX]]'', only need their first reference covered. Ensure to list any future references in the same listing.
+*'''Hardware in ''Sonic'' references:''' If a reference features someone playing a ''Sonic'' game, and it shows them using hardware required to play the game (like a [[Control Pad (Mega Drive)]] or [[Game Gear]]), that reference doesn't need to be copied here as well.
-===To investigate===
+==To do==
-*[[wikipedia:Silver Spoon (Russian TV series)|Silver Spoon]] - Season 2 Episode 9, "The Last Milk", apparently features a Puyo Puyo appearance.
+*Rename to Film, Television, and Web?
-*[[wikipedia:Solar Opposites|Solar Opposites]] - Apparently features a Saturn appearance.
+*Make a distinction between References and Sponsorships (may need content migrated between articles)?
-*[[wikipedia:Dream Team (TV series)|Dream Team]] - Apparently features the members of the Harchester United F.C. playing a Dreamcast.
+*Limit entries by notability?
-*[[wikipedia:London's Burning (TV series)|London's Burning]] - Apparently features firefighters occasionally browsing the internet on a Dreamcast.
-*[[wikipedia:Two Guys and a Girl|Two Guys and a Girl]] - Apparently features a Dreamcast in a character's apartment.
+*''Otto - Der Außerfriesische'' was co-financed by Sega. Check for product placement.
-*[[wikipedia:Cheaters (American TV series)|Cheaters]] - Apparently features a Dreamcast appearance.
+*[[wikipedia:Solar Opposites|Solar Opposites]] - Saturn appearance.
-*[[wikipedia:Bodacious Space Pirates|Bodacious Space Pirates]] - Apparently features a Dreamcast appearance.
+*[[wikipedia:Dream Team (TV series)|Dream Team]] - Members of the Harchester United F.C. playing a Dreamcast.
+*[[wikipedia:London's Burning (TV series)|London's Burning]] - Firefighters browsing the internet on a Dreamcast.
+*[[wikipedia:Two Guys and a Girl|Two Guys and a Girl]] - Dreamcast in a character's apartment.
+*[[wikipedia:Cheaters (American TV series)|Cheaters]] - Dreamcast appearance.
+*[[wikipedia:Bodacious Space Pirates|Bodacious Space Pirates]] - Dreamcast appearance.
+::I found the scene of Dreamcast in London's Burning. I'll upload it tomorrow! - Deathscythe
+==Mr. Robot==
+The logo uses [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Robot same font as Sega]. Is that qualify to this page? [[User:Geti3220|Geti3220]] ([[User talk:Geti3220|talk]]) 14:02, 22 May 2024 (EDT)
+:That's a really good question. One I had to research. And... I don't know, its hard to tell. On one hand, they're based on different fonts. On the other hand, the designer of the Mr. Robot font had to have known that a good majority of the audience is gonna see that logo and think "oh that's like the Sega logo." If anything, with the content of the show, it gives off less a Sega logo vibe and more.... a retro tech industry vibe? Maybe that's not the best way to describe it, but I think the design is referencing what the Sega logo was based on, more than the logo itself.
+:So in this case, its probably not a Sega ref, but I'm not super sure :) [[User:CartridgeCulture|CartridgeCulture]] ([[User talk:CartridgeCulture|talk]]) 21:55, 23 May 2024 (EDT)
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+== split me do ==
+{{TODO}}
+I think it might be worth splitting this into separate "film" and "television" pages, because turns out there's a lot of films and television shows.
+but
+I also think it might be a good idea to copy parts of [[Template:InfoTable]]/[[Template:InfoRow]] - have a thumbnail we can actually see (on the left, so it's consistent with other pages), and have the tabs for multiple screenshots.
+It would be a relatively simple template for me to make, but I want to get more people involved in template creation and maintenance, so there's some backup should I get run over by a bus tomorrow. Jump in, have a go, make mistakes, etc. -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 14:47, 8 November 2024 (EST)

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