Talk:Canelon Toys

Are Canelon Kako and Canelon Toys really the same company? --Akiyama Akane (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2018 (CDT)

Yes ... look to this photo... this photo was taken in the International Food Machinery & Technology Exhibition (FOOMA) in Japan... if you look closely you will see a leaflet in the table with the Canelon logo...--Asagoth (talk) 12:28, 18 September 2018 (CDT)

Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd (永峰商事株式会社)

Canelon Co. Ltd "View Blossoms" series of plushies ... as you guys can see on the label "株式会社キャネロン" (Canelon Co. Ltd) ... a doll by Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd ... and on the label you guys can see "永峰商事株式会社" (Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd)... Confusing ? ... in this American Commercial Import Detentions Report for the years 1971 and 1972 some baby rattles were banned from entering the United States for being considered hazardous products... found this photo here on this page... apparently the owner of that page is related with the people that owned Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd... I guess the company was founded as Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd and "Canelon", who was one of their brands, became later the name of the company?... dunno... what I know is that the name 永峰商事株式会社 (Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd) is featured in this photo of the September 1966 "Tokyo Toy and Commerce Report" that we have... right under our noses --Asagoth (talk) 16:32, 10 February 2020 (EST)

One photo is better than the other... but aren't the adresses featured on both labels the same? ... they look the same to me... yep... I guess that what was mentioned above is not that far from the truth...--Asagoth (talk) 17:41, 10 February 2020 (EST)

Chiyoda-Kogyo-Kaisha, Ltd.

The Japan Trading Guidance (1920)... As you guys know ... one can do many things with celluloid not just toys... so in that page you guys can see that in 1920 Sheijiro Nagamine had a plant/office called Chiyoda-Kogyo-Kaisha, Ltd. (formerly Nagamine Celluloid Industry Co. Ltd... all the plants were called Nagamine Celluloid Industry Co. Ltd) in Asakusa, a district in Taito, Tokyo ... as you might know Nagamine Shoji Co. Ltd. in 1949 was located exactly in Asakusa when it was amalgamated by Nagamine Celluloid ... so this branch , who was probably opened by Sheijiro to trade other celluloid goods than just toys, was born as Nagamine Celluloid, was later renamed to Chiyoda-Kogyo-Kaisha, Ltd. and and ultimately to Nagamine Shoji before the amalgamation on July 18, 1949... I guess...--Asagoth (talk) 04:08, 16 February 2020 (EST)

Hello Kitty Windball lollipop...

And now that we are talking of blow ball pipes... Asagoth will share some of his childhood experiences :) ... when Asagoth was just a child (I'm meaning 1986/1987) the "Hello Kitty Windball", a strawberry/orange-flavoured lollipop, was a hit among children in Portugal ... it offered a blow ball pipe that kids could assemble before or after consuming the lollipop who was also a whistle (shaped like one... the idea consisted in consuming the lollipop while whistling and playing with it... after consumption there was no more whistle because it was made of candy... obviously) I bought many of these back then... they disappeared from the market a few years later, sometime in 1992/1993 ...--Asagoth (talk) 05:50, 17 February 2020 (EST)

Edit: Found the Spanish commercial =) ... yep ... it was available in Spain too ... it was manufactured by Chupa Chups :)...--Asagoth (talk) 07:44, 17 February 2020 (EST)

Nagamine Seijiro Shoten

One... Two ... Three ... IT'S BEER TIME =) ...--Asagoth (talk) 12:47, 17 February 2020 (EST)

Amalgamation

Apparently Nagamine Seijiro Shoten (located in Kuramae, Asakusa, Tokyo) was called in 1949 Nagamine Shoji ... According to the book "Japan in the Taisho Era" Nagamine Seijiro Shoten had a factory, equipped with every modern appliance at Ogu, Arakawa, Tokyo... in the amalgamation notice featured on the September 24, 1949 edition of the "Official Gazette of Japan" Nagamine Celluloid Kogyo (Ogu, Arakawa) amalgamated Nagamine Shoji (Kuramae, Asakusa)... So basically Seijiro Nagamine (or his sons) moved the headquarters from Asakusa to the big factory in Ogu... and as seen in the 1966 "Tokyo Toy and Commerce Report" they returned to the name Nagamine Shoji sometime later... "Shoji" (商事) means "trading" and "Kogyo" (工業) means something like "industrial enterprise"... and I have seen also the name Nagamine Sangyo ("Sangyo", "産業"... means industry) in editions of the 1950s of the Official Gazette of Japan... so if it was called Shoji, Kogyo or Sangyo it doesn't matter too much because... it's all Nagamine...--Asagoth (talk) 05:58, 17 March 2020 (EDT)

Edit: ...and for some time... at least from 1920 (apparently) until 1922 (as far as we know...) they were (in fact) called "Chiyoda Kogyo Kaisha, Ltd." ...--Asagoth (talk) 16:50, 17 March 2020 (EDT)

Canelon (キャネロン, Kyaneron) / Minelon (ミネロン, Mineron) ...

So what's the difference between this Roly Poly Doll and this one here ? ... none except the color, the art and the brand... "Minelon" (the ad is from 1967) was a brand of Nagamine Co. Ltd. (株式会社 ナガミネ, Kabushiki Gaisha Nagamine)... Logo composed by the name "Minelon" inside a streched "N") from Taito, Tokyo... who said our "job" was the easiest? ...--Asagoth (talk) 04:38, 7 April 2020 (EDT)

Edit: After two days of "digging" I still can't prove if 株式会社 ナガミネ (Kabushiki Gaisha Nagamine) is a different company or the same... in those FDA reports that we have F. W. Woolworth of New York imported many mechanical Merry Go Round toys of the brand Canelon... but they also imported many of the brand Minelon... "Minelon" toys were still being produced in de 80s ... I can imagine Seizaburo competing with is brother Kanematsu but that's just my imagination... but at the same time we are tempted to say that they are the same company ... let's leave it this way for now... both scenarios can give us a good story to tell... but toys branded "Minelon" are harder to come by on the internet than those branded "Canelon" (I need more photos of labels, boxes, ads and such...)--Asagoth (talk) 07:57, 9 April 2020 (EDT)

"Chiyoloid" ...

• Book "Glimpses of the East" published in 1935 (Volume 18, page 54): Exhibit 1 ; Exhibit 2, Exhibit 3

• a little excerpt (just text... google don't want us to see it) from the book "Trade and Industry of Japan" published in 1955 (Volumes 11-15 Page 117)

"Although Japanese celluloid toys have been exported in large quantities and favoured much by children all over the world, ... articles of non-inflammable celluloid with a trade mark "Canelon" were put on the market by the Nagamine Celluloid ..." --Asagoth (talk) 16:43, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Edit: a soap box of the brand "Chiyoloid" ... we know they exported to Australia... however they think it was made in Australia because there's few info around...--Asagoth (talk) 20:08, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Edit 2: A "Santa" and a Japanese scene in a shell (photo 2) ... we can count three trademarks that they had used along the years "Chiyolon", "Nack" and "Canelon" ... these trademarks refer to the kind of celluloid plastics that celluloid companies invented and patented... each company had its own formula and since "celluloid" was also a registered name, several companies adopted other "Loid" names for their plastics materials...--Asagoth (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Patent JP40366

Frosting celluloid articles. Seijiro Nagamine. Japan 40,366 Oct. 19, 1921 ...--Asagoth (talk) 19:21, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Canelon Co. ltd (株式会社キャネロン)

yep... it's true ... the same adress that we can see here ... and that cable adress "Chiyoloid Tokyo" and their telex: "265-5587 CANELO J" proves it too... no more doubts guys... no more doubts... --Asagoth (talk) 04:49, 21 April 2020 (EDT)

Great Kantō earthquake

The 1923 Great Kantō earthquake ... 142,800 deaths, including about 40,000 who went missing and were presumed dead... This earthquake devastated Tokyo, the port city of Yokohama, and the surrounding prefectures of Chiba, Kanagawa, and Shizuoka, causing widespread damage throughout the Kantō region... you guys can read more about it on wikipedia... Asagoth knows (he's still a stupid creature with an intelligence quotient of a cockroach) that a section of 250 tsubo of Nagamine's factory in Kameido (were Masanosuke Watanabe once worked) collapsed, that the manufacturing machinery and appliances were only slightly damaged and it would probably be possible to restart from October 1, 1923 or 1924... this info was published on "The Chemical News and Journal of Industrial Science"... archive.org has some volumes of this journal archived... unfortunately they don't have volumes #127, #128 and #129 ... so this page will remain unchanged because Asagoth has no access to them...--Asagoth (talk) 03:18, 28 April 2020 (EDT)

海峽殖民地概覽 (General Overview of... something)

Yep... Asagoth skills in Japanese language suck... anyway... this "old as hell" book has references to Nagamine Celluloid Industry Co. Ltd and Seijiro Nagamine... google books tells us the info we want is on page 1866, however the book has only 440 pages... any help in finding the page in question would be appreciated... I love you all!...--Asagoth (talk) 16:38, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Edit: Hallelujah... 海峽殖民地概覽 (General Overview of the Straits Settlements)... published in August 1918...--Asagoth (talk) 10:09, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

I almost forgot... this book is public domain... the protection expired... so there's nothing to worry about... books will only be available to download on the "National Diet Library Digital Collections" website only in that condition...--Asagoth (talk) 10:23, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

The Asahi Shimbun

I think that the print advert in question, is this one in red ...--Asagoth (talk) 13:23, 4 June 2021 (EDT)