Difference between revisions of "SC-3000"

From Sega Retro

(Created page with "==« Verison »== Misspelling? Was that supposed to mean « Version »? ==French Yeno version== I do own a french SC3000 (not 3000H) with no Yeno branding. It says SEGA as the...")
 
(→‎C64 comparison: new section)
 
(17 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown)
Line 5: Line 5:
 
I do own a french SC3000 (not 3000H) with no Yeno branding. It says SEGA as the other models, but was distributed with a custom Yeno (fugly) joystick.
 
I do own a french SC3000 (not 3000H) with no Yeno branding. It says SEGA as the other models, but was distributed with a custom Yeno (fugly) joystick.
 
http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1297127153.jpg
 
http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1297127153.jpg
 +
 +
== French SC3000 by ITMC ==
 +
 +
I found a French SC-3000 distributed by ITMC : http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/14/43/42/14/cimg7010.jpg
 +
The logo is Sega on the system, not Yeno or ITMC : http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/14/43/42/14/cimg7011.jpg
 +
 +
First time i see one like this
 +
 +
==To do at some point==
 +
*''[[BASIC Level II A]]''
 +
*''[[BASIC Level II B]]''
 +
*''[[BASIC Level III A]]''
 +
*''[[BASIC Level III B]]''
 +
 +
*[[John Sands SM1200 Micromodem 3]]
 +
 +
*''[[Maths Hang-Up]]''
 +
*''[[Pandamonium 2]]''
 +
 +
*''[[X-Bert]]''
 +
 +
===Australia===
 +
{{multicol|
 +
*''[[Addition Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Alien]]''
 +
*''[[Alpha Alphabet]]''
 +
*''[[Australian General Knowledge Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Australian Geography Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Backgammon]]''
 +
*''[[BASIC II Tutorial Programs 1 & 2]]''
 +
*''[[Blackjack]]''
 +
*''[[Demon Division]]''
 +
*''[[Demon Gobbler]]''
 +
*''[[Demonstration 1.0]]''
 +
*''[[Division Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Dragonquest]]''
 +
*''[[Environoid]]''
 +
*''[[Expense Analysis]]''
 +
*''[[Flashword]]''
 +
*''[[Flashword 2]]''
 +
*''[[General Knowledge Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Geography Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Heroic Quest]]''
 +
*''[[Ice Cream Stall]]''
 +
*''[[Keyboard Learning Program]]''
 +
*''[[Learning the Alphabet]]''
 +
*''[[Learning to Count]]''
 +
*''[[Let's Type]]''
 +
*''[[LinkWord]]''
 +
*''[[Marauding Multiplication]]''
 +
*''[[Monitor]]''
 +
*''[[Multiplication Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Ninja]]''
 +
*''[[Reverso]]''
 +
*''[[Roman Numbers]]''
 +
*''[[Satellite Subtraction]]''
 +
*''[[The Search for King Solomon's Mines]]''
 +
*''[[Secret of Bastow Manor]]''
 +
*''[[Segacom]]''
 +
*''[[Sega-Draw]]''
 +
*''[[Segaword 1]]''
 +
*''[[Skull Island]]''
 +
*''[[Spelling Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Spellomatic 1]]''
 +
*''[[Sprite Generator Program]]''
 +
*''[[Subtraction Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Super Sleuth Series]]''
 +
*''[[Supertape 1]]''
 +
*''[[Touch Type Tutorials 1, 2 & 3]]''
 +
*''[[Vermin Invaders]]''
 +
*''[[Whiz Kid Mental Arithmetic]]''
 +
|cols=3}}
 +
 +
===New Zealand===
 +
{{multicol|
 +
*''[[Accounts Payable]]''
 +
*''[[Accounts Receivable]]''
 +
*''[[Addition Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Aerobat]]''
 +
*''[[Arcade Pack 1]]''
 +
*''[[Arcade Pack 2]]''
 +
*''[[Arcade Pack 3]]''
 +
*''[[Astro Defence]]''
 +
*''[[Bit Byte]]''
 +
*''[[Bugaloo]]''
 +
*''[[Burglar Bill]]''
 +
*''[[Burglar Bill and Caverns of Karanor]]''
 +
*''[[Castaway]]''
 +
*''[[Castle of Fear]]''
 +
*''[[Caverns of Karanor]]''
 +
*''[[Cheque Book Reconciliation]]''
 +
*''[[Chess]]''
 +
*''[[City-Lander]]''
 +
*''[[Codebreaker]]''
 +
*''[[Cube It]]''
 +
*''[[The Deadly Jewel of Antark]]''
 +
*''[[Death Satellite]]''
 +
*''[[Decimator]]'' (198x)
 +
*''[[Delta Fighter]]''
 +
*''[[Dungeons Beneath Cairo]]''
 +
*''[[Easy Writer]]''
 +
*''[[Empire]]''
 +
*''[[File System]]''
 +
*''[[Gold Pack]]''
 +
*''[[Geography 1]]''
 +
*''[[Graph and Chart Presentation]]''
 +
*''[[Hang Man]]''
 +
*''[[The House]]''
 +
*''[[Kalah]]''
 +
*''[[Kingdom]]'' (198x)
 +
*''[[Laser Blast]]''
 +
*''[[Learning the Alphabet]]''
 +
*''[[Learning to Count]]''
 +
*''[[Loan and Mortgage Calculator Tutor]]'' (1984)
 +
*''[[Mailing List]]''
 +
*''[[Mars Adventure]]''
 +
*''[[Mars Mobile]]''
 +
*''[[Michael Howard's More Than 50 Programs]]''
 +
*''[[Moonbase Alpha]]'' (1986)
 +
*''[[Multiplication Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Music Cartridge Demonstration Cassette]]''
 +
*''[[Music Editor]]''
 +
*''[[Night Trotting]]''
 +
*''[[One Day Cricket]]''
 +
*''[[Orb of Power]]''
 +
*''[[Poker]]''
 +
*''[[Pre-School Shape and Colour Quiz]]''
 +
*''[[Rocket Maths]]''
 +
*''[[Satellite Salvage]]'' (198x)
 +
*''[[Shape and Colour Quiz]]''
 +
*''[[Sir Roderick’s Quest]]'' (1986)
 +
*''[[Sorcerer’s Apprentice]]'' (1987)
 +
*''[[Spelling Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Sprite Editor]]''
 +
*''[[Subtraction Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Teach Yourself BASIC Games Programming]]''
 +
*''[[The Young'ns]]''
 +
*''[[Towers of Hanoi]]''
 +
*''[[Tradewinds]]'' (198x)
 +
*''[[Typing Tutor]]''
 +
*''[[Vortex Blaster]]'' (198x)
 +
*''[[Watch Me Draw]]''
 +
*''[[Zivorx Adventure]]''
 +
|cols=3}}
 +
 +
===Japan===
 +
*''[[Chuugaku Hisshuu Eitango]]''
 +
*''[[HuCAL]]''
 +
*''[[Sega LOGO]]''
 +
 +
===France===
 +
*''[[Cocky]]''
 +
*''[[Creation Des Sprites]]''
 +
*''[[Kamikaze]]'' (1984)
 +
*''[[Olympiades]]''
 +
*''[[Poseidon Wars (SC-3000)]]''
 +
*''[[Rambo (SC-3000)]]'' (1991)
 +
*''[[Space Panic]]''
 +
 +
 +
also look out for [[Compulink]].
 +
 +
-[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] 14:20, 3 September 2012 (CDT)
 +
 +
== C64 comparison ==
 +
 +
While I do quite like the idea of having tables or pages or whatever to compare competing video game systems, I don't think the comparisons belong on the main system page, and don't think we should be necessarily stating "x is better than y" unless it's really obvious. For example, clock speed differences between a Z80 and 6502 might not mean a whole lot, as the processors are very different beasts and there could be a number of other factors affecting performance.
 +
 +
i.e. it's better to remain neutral and just state the facts. How you define "power" is also relative to what you want to achieve - the ZX Spectum often runs games at a higher frame rate than the Commodore 64, but there are fewer colours to play with and on the 48K models, not much sound (usually).
 +
 +
 +
That being said, comparing the SC-3000 to the Commodore 64 is... maybe not the best of plans, because the two weren't really designed to compete against each other. A comparison with the MSX makes more sense because it was designed primarily for Japan, but it's not a particularly fantastic period for this sort of thing, as there were 5489320483204893124 microcomputers of similar-ish specs selling in Japan, France, Italy, Austraila and New Zealand at the time. Where do you draw the line?
 +
 +
Hardware comparisons also fall a bit flat if the software is unique.
 +
 +
 +
In other news it would be better to duplicate the SG-1000 spec list here than say "go look at the SG-1000 page". It's just as valid to say the SG-1000 was a "consolised" version of the SC-3000, as it is to say the SC-3000 is a "computerised" SG-1000. They were both released on the same day -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 12:46, 18 October 2016 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 12:46, 18 October 2016

« Verison »

Misspelling? Was that supposed to mean « Version »?

French Yeno version

I do own a french SC3000 (not 3000H) with no Yeno branding. It says SEGA as the other models, but was distributed with a custom Yeno (fugly) joystick. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1297127153.jpg

French SC3000 by ITMC

I found a French SC-3000 distributed by ITMC : http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/14/43/42/14/cimg7010.jpg The logo is Sega on the system, not Yeno or ITMC : http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/14/43/42/14/cimg7011.jpg

First time i see one like this

To do at some point

Australia

New Zealand

Japan

France


also look out for Compulink.

-Black Squirrel 14:20, 3 September 2012 (CDT)

C64 comparison

While I do quite like the idea of having tables or pages or whatever to compare competing video game systems, I don't think the comparisons belong on the main system page, and don't think we should be necessarily stating "x is better than y" unless it's really obvious. For example, clock speed differences between a Z80 and 6502 might not mean a whole lot, as the processors are very different beasts and there could be a number of other factors affecting performance.

i.e. it's better to remain neutral and just state the facts. How you define "power" is also relative to what you want to achieve - the ZX Spectum often runs games at a higher frame rate than the Commodore 64, but there are fewer colours to play with and on the 48K models, not much sound (usually).


That being said, comparing the SC-3000 to the Commodore 64 is... maybe not the best of plans, because the two weren't really designed to compete against each other. A comparison with the MSX makes more sense because it was designed primarily for Japan, but it's not a particularly fantastic period for this sort of thing, as there were 5489320483204893124 microcomputers of similar-ish specs selling in Japan, France, Italy, Austraila and New Zealand at the time. Where do you draw the line?

Hardware comparisons also fall a bit flat if the software is unique.


In other news it would be better to duplicate the SG-1000 spec list here than say "go look at the SG-1000 page". It's just as valid to say the SG-1000 was a "consolised" version of the SC-3000, as it is to say the SC-3000 is a "computerised" SG-1000. They were both released on the same day -Black Squirrel (talk) 12:46, 18 October 2016 (CDT)