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About the Wiki Articles, I did that just for now, Im gonna edit them and change the info to something like that from time to time (You know, adding screenshots, covers, and gameplay info.) These were very wip. Also, its nice to have some info to start - [[User:Elratauru|Elratauru]] 3:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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* [[User_talk:Hivebrain/2010-2018]]
  
So, ok, cleaned them. Sorry about the copy-paste thing. Now they have screens, covers (not that high res, but I couldnt find better ones...), I added gameplay info and credits too. [[User:Elratauru|Elratauru]] 7:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Link-up cable ==
  
==List of Games==
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Thank you for taking notice of my article.
Why are you giving the list of games a seperate page on Mega Drive but you are listing them on the same page as the system on other pages? They should each have their own page if you want to keep things consistant.--[[User:MathUser|MathUser]] 23:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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I am new at wiki editing so if something seems not right, just say and i will try to learn to correct my errors quickly.
: Lists will eventually be placed on their own pages. Consistency has to be worked on, not deleted into existence. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] 23:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
-Um, the "List of Mega Drive games" pages should be finished.... -Firbin4576
 
  
==Confusion on "Sands of Destruction"==
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one question: how do you know the original cable was ''Manufactured'' by Techno pop, i understand they designed it and presumably own the patent, and i could only assume Accolade distributed it, but the manufacturer i can't find solid proof of.
On AnimeNetsNetwork's Sega page, "Sands of Destruction" is listed with "Original Creator, Production" as their credit;
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this site seems to suggest Sega itself made them, but the photo on this link is dubious, since it could just be shot of a Genesis control pad plug
[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=79 You can see for yourself if you want. Notice that nearly all the other things with "Original Creator/Concept/Copyright" on their credit are considered properties they themselves own.]
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http://segaage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=127730
Therefore, I would argue that the page for the anime deserves to be reinstated (There should probably also be a page on the game, but I've never played it and thus can't give much details other than what I've heard.)
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I would absolutely love it if you could shed more light on this obscure peripheral
You're free to debate this still if you want - I'm fairly confused over the ramifications of "Producer" credits for the likes of Evangelion myself, and am wondering if it warrants Wiki entries.--[[User:KiddoCabbusses|KiddoCabbusses]] 04:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Regarding DPL-friendliness ==
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Regards
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Jun
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: I just assumed they made it, but if we're not sure then I'll change it back. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 16:21, 5 March 2019 (EST)
  
This particular method isn't as DPL-friendly, no, but I didn't know that was a consideration. What current/future DPL uses did you have in mind? [[User:Garrett|Garrett]] 21:37, 6 January 2012 (CST)
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That would be advisable, Thanks. [[User:Jun The Detective]] 22:52 05/03/2019
  
==Concerning Dates==
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==Bollycao Eternal Champions Stickers==
See [[Sandbox]] - it's perfectly capable of doing date sorts in DD-MM-YYYY format.- [[User:Scarred Sun|Scarred Sun]] 14:49, 31 March 2012 (CDT)
 
: That's good, but we've used yyyy-mm-dd on hundreds of other pages. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] 14:52, 31 March 2012 (CDT)
 
::The root problem being, of course, that we have at least three different date formats floating around on pages. - [[User:Scarred Sun|Scarred Sun]] 15:09, 31 March 2012 (CDT) [Groan -- I'll just switch the existing stuff over to yyyy-mm-dd]
 
::: I think I like yyyy-mm-dd better anyway. Anything else might look a bit jumbled on a "list of games" table. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] 15:46, 31 March 2012 (CDT)
 
  
==Ay up==
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Can I ask you something? ... is it possible for you to delete a page? ... I'm asking because when I found these [[Bollycao Eternal Champions Stickers]] they were named as Bollycao stickers (just google for "Bollycao Eternal Champions" and you will see what I'm talking about)... when in fact they aren't... they are actually a [https://archive.org/details/TodoSega_11/page/n15 set of stickers that was given away with the Spanish magazine "Todo Sega"]... so they should be on "Todo Sega" page as extras... with that said the "Bollycao Eternal Champions Stickers" page shouldn't exist...--[[User:Asagoth|Asagoth]] ([[User talk:Asagoth|talk]]) 19:53, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Don't know if you're still in the business of adding prices to Master System games but I found something in my travels
 
*http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/874/sdc10035v.jpg
 
This is apparently the compatibility list for the [[Master Gear Converter]], though it's been nice enough to include RRPs of SMS games in the US for some reason. Don't know how reliable it is (since there's no such thing as a "Zillion III") but yeah -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] 10:56, 19 May 2012 (CDT)
 
  
== Meam Machines Sega ==
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== Changes to the Releases templates ==
  
About upside-down pages... This pages presented in some issues and they were scanned definetely like this... Upside-down. And I specially didn't overturn them. -[[User:Depressor|Depressor]] ([[User talk:Depressor|talk]]) 01:19, 16 September 2014 (CDT)
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Will the changes to the Releases templates be carried over to more systems like the [[Nintendo 3DS]] and [[Nintendo Switch]] in due time? It'll be easier for when I'm doing the 3D Classics and Sega Ages pages. --[[User:SorachiJirachi|SorachiJirachi]] ([[User talk:SorachiJirachi|talk]]) 20:24, 22 April 2019 (EDT)
<br> I have sources so if you think it would be right, i can rebuild this issues.
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: Yes, and I was planning to do the Nintendo ones next. I've only been doing them as I need them, but if it helps I can update the 3DS/Switch ones sooner. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 20:37, 22 April 2019 (EDT)
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:: That would be great. Cheers. --[[User:SorachiJirachi|SorachiJirachi]] ([[User talk:SorachiJirachi|talk]]) 20:45, 22 April 2019 (EDT)
  
==Maybe you can work it out==
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== Error creating thumbnail ==
{{Bob
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https://retrocdn.net/File:Neo_Plus_10_PL.pdf
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Do you know how to remove this error in Neo and Neo Plus scans ?
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: Are you using [https://retrocdn.net/File:JPEGtoPDF.7z this program] to compile the PDFs? - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 11:01, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
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::  With other files yes but all the scans from Neo and Neo Plus were created in adultpdf.--[[User:Lukdriver14|Lukdriver14]] ([[User talk:Lukdriver14|talk]]) 11:25, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
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== Company ==
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| romsize=whoop
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I have this nasty habit of looking at templates at the end of the day.
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Took your advice with [[Streets of Rage 2 Original Soundtrack]], using [[:Template:Company]], but... it's not working... and I don't understand why. While the text is appearing on the page as expected, nothing is being added to the database. First glance suggests [[:Template:MusicBob]] looks like [[:Template:Bob]] - I don't know why it's not behaving in the same way.
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While I'm here, I had a fresh look at [[Template talk:Porttable]] earlier in the week - I can't see myself actually finishing this job, and it's probably for a similar reason - the act of getting company information into the database, with all these loose variables and things that can go wrong, is just really really awkward.
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I'm thinking from an end user perspective, instead of having to pass multiple templates in as arguments, if we could get a situation where we were passing in a fancy-pants list, e.g.:
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<pre>
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{{companies
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|arcade|JP|[[Sega]]|3
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|MD|JP|[[Sega]]|4
 
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I think the genre2num template generates an extra line break -->
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</pre>
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(hardware|region|name|level)
  
I tried to solve it the other day but all I managed to do is make template code unreadable. Fancy a challenge? -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 14:42, 20 January 2015 (CST)
 
: It's doing that because there's a div inside a p. I'm going to tidy up the bob templates eventually, so that they'll only use tables or divs. Until then I don't think there's a quick way to fix it. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:59, 20 January 2015 (CST)
 
  
==scanbox==
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AcademySoft-ELORG (licensor)<br/>
*[[Control Stick]]
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[[File:DownRightArrow.svg|16px]] [[Mirrorsoft]] (licensor)<br/>
*[[Joystick (SJ-200)]]
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[[File:DownRightArrow.svg|16px]] [[Atari Games]] (licensor)<br/>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[[File:DownRightArrow.svg|16px]] {{arcade}} [[Sega]] (JP) (publisher)<br/>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[[File:DownRightArrow.svg|16px]] [[Tengen]] (licensor)<br/>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[[File:DownRightArrow.svg|16px]] {{MD}} [[Sega]] (JP) (publisher)<br/>
  
there's also things like [[Nomad PowerBack]] where the top side is in the wrong position... if you see what I mean. Because not all cuboid nets are the same unless I rotate the top image by 180 degrees this is really awkward to describe in text form -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 03:42, 23 February 2015 (CST)
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I think life might be (relatively) simpler for people. And we could have maths work out how to store things in the database. -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 16:52, 4 May 2019 (EDT)
:Also thinking proper support for "disc 2", "disc 3" etc. might be an idea - at least up to disc 4, just so that it looks a bit nicer. There's a few extremes like [[Sakura Taisen Complete Box]] which shipped with ten discs, but I don't know if we want to be making special considerations for them. -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 08:10, 23 February 2015 (CST)
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: I think it's because there's no system specified. Usually in that case, Template:Company is supposed to pull systems from Bob's system parameter. MusicBob doesn't have a system, so the variable is blank and it's probably doing nothing. It made sense while I was writing it, but the whole thing's a bit of a mess. I'll have a think and hopefully come up with something a bit more elegant. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 18:00, 4 May 2019 (EDT)
::I've fixed the linebreak issue, and added discs up to 4. I know what you mean about the top/bottom images occasionally being wrong. I'll add an option to rotate them with css (so the images themselves don't need to be upside-down) some other time. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:08, 23 February 2015 (CST)
 
  
== Mean Machines ==
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== Bugged-up releases table for Sonic Generations 3DS ==
Maybe better upload full magazines? *[[User:Depressor|Depressor]] ([[User talk:Depressor|talk]]) 06:53, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
: It's a non-Sega magazine. The pages I removed were out of scope (NES reviews mostly). - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 07:49, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
::On this point, because I'm not keen on half-finished magazines either - Retro CDN? At some point you'll hit TurboGrafx coverage so it's something NEC Retro will need -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 11:38, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
::: I've started putting them on Retro CDN as of issue 5, because of Sonic content. I could upload full issues, but then I'd have to do it for every magazine and that would take up a significant amount of storage (I have several hundred gigs of magazine scans). My upload speed isn't good enough to do that regularly anyway. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 11:56, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
::::Might I suggest blank pages for the bits you've cut out then - just so we don't have to edit a bazillion ratings if someone turns up with a complete scan -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 12:25, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
I can upload full magazines after little rework, as i did with MMS or other sega-relate magazines *[[User:Depressor|Depressor]] ([[User talk:Depressor|talk]]) 13:51, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
: I still think full magazines are out of scope and shouldn't be uploaded. Are we just talking about ''Mean Machines'' (because it evolved into MMS), or do we upload every issue of CVG, GamePro, EGM etc? - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:30, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
::I would say if the magazine has something of value in it, then yes. Assuming it's more than a couple of pages (else just upload those specific pages like the old days)
 
  
::It's not an ideal situation, but I don't fundementally like the idea of only preserving half of something, on the grounds that some of it isn't in scope today. If we'd done this in 2010, we'd have a full set of cropped up Mean Machines scans, which would then need to be re-uploaded in a less cropped-up form for NEC Retro's launch. What if it turns out in another five years time we've got a wiki that deals with the Amstrad GX4000? Mean Machines would need to be re-uploaded for a third time.
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I copied over the added release info for ''[[Sonic Generations (Nintendo 3DS)]]'' from its respective page from Sonic Retro, but now I have a problem. While it looks fine over on Sonic Retro, it's messed up somehow on Sega Retro in that almost everything is designated as a digital download when some of them aren't supposed to be. Could you look into this? --[[User:SorachiJirachi|SorachiJirachi]] ([[User talk:SorachiJirachi|talk]]) 22:11, 5 May 2019 (EDT)
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: I made a mistake in the releases templates. It should be okay now. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 00:23, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
  
::Future proofing, in a world where gigabytes will cost less and etc. But blank placeholder pages at least means we won't have to re-edit wikis if the above happens. You could also probably argue that developments in the Nintendo sphere were probably important to Sega - they were competitors basing business decisions on the actions of each other, and the important bits usually coincide with when Sega games were being covered.
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==Segaretro does'nt work in Flashpeak slimjet web browser==
  
::If a magazine is printed without any Sega (or NEC) stuff in it at all, we probably don't have to care. So that would discount 1982/1983 issues of CVG and things like that. -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 15:22, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
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Hi, I'm not exactly sure where i should ask this, but since you are a site administrator I was hoping you could help or at least give me an idea.
  
:::also the same logic might mean I could go through all the Sega Saturn Magazine scans and crop out all those damn adverts for spot treatment. But then it would be a 95% complete scan and that would annoy me more than anything. =P -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 15:24, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
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I was going to upgrade my browser from firefox to slimjet (a deeply modified version of Chrome)and most pages work, but when i try to access any page on segaretro.org it won't let me in and displays this:
:::: How about if I upload the full mags with JPEG compression dialled up to 20%? It'll reduce file sizes down to less than half, without affecting readability. Seems like a good compromise that'll satisfy everyone's concerns. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 18:49, 26 June 2015 (CDT)
 
::::: That could work -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 04:42, 27 June 2015 (CDT)
 
  
== One Login ==
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Hi. Is it possible to make one login procedure to all wiki's? (sonicretro, segaretro, NEC, Retro CDN) *[[User:Depressor|Depressor]] ([[User talk:Depressor|talk]])
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<nowiki>This site can’t provide a secure connection.
: There were plans for something like that, but I'm not sure if it's still being worked on. Register with the same name each time, and hopefully the accounts can be merged in the future. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 12:29, 30 September 2015 (CDT)
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segaretro.org uses an unsupported protocol.
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ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
  
==About Repro covers==
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Unsupported protocol,
Dunno if this is a right place to talk with you.. about that M.U.S.H.A. repro cover,I  added that one for educational purposes. You see a lotta people complained that it's pretty close to the original one and may confuse some people to think that it's an original copy.. I personally think that differences are pretty obvious but still this is a nice place to educate people and let them know which one is real etc. --[[User:Foxnoodles|Foxnoodles]]
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The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure''.</nowiki>
  
== Re: Does that mean we'll have multipage PDF thumbs? ==
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[[File:SSM UK 22.pdf|page=18-22|100px]]
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I don't know if this is specific to slimjet, but i never had this issue with firefox V52, or K-meleon.
  
<div style="max-width: 230px;">[[File:SSM UK 22.pdf|page=18-22|100px]]</div>
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--Jun The Detective 18:13, 12 May 2019 (EDT)
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: It's not my area of expertise, but I've passed it along to the rest of the staff. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 18:25, 12 May 2019 (EDT)
  
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== Assistance ==
  
this raises the possibility of being clever
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Hello. Sorry for taking up space in your talk section. But my account has been deleted for the second time without my knowledge. And not i am not allowed to edit or contribute. Since you are an admin, can you tell me what i did wrong? - Peace MkIII
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: We don't delete user accounts here. However, we did switch to the Retro CDN user database a while ago, so if you created your account before that then it's probably gone. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:46, 16 November 2019 (EST)
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::Thank you for your time.
  
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== Releases bug ==
|width="100px" style="padding:0px;"|[[File:SSM UK 22.pdf|page=18|100px]]
 
|width="125px" style="padding:0px; font-size:0;"|[[File:SSM UK 22.pdf|page=19-22|50px]]
 
|rest of magrow template here
 
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those added spaces might cause problems though. Food for thought -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 13:12, 11 June 2016 (CDT)
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Found a thing:
:or do that -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 13:16, 11 June 2016 (CDT)
 
  
::That's a bit disappointing. I thought it would make a single image thumbnail from the specified pages, and it doesn't work in galleries at all. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 13:42, 11 June 2016 (CDT)
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*[[Rage Games]]
  
===Multipage thumbs part 2===
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The Mega Drive version of [[Ultimate Soccer]] has two references for its earliest date (the UK one). This creates a string that is apparently "too big" to work with once it's been through the database:
<div style="word-spacing: -4px;">[[File:SSM UK 22.pdf|page=18-22|100px]]</div>
 
  
Removing the spaces is possible with a bit of css. Maybe we could make our own gallery template that employs loops somehow. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 15:42, 20 June 2016 (CDT)
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https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=Special%3ACargoQuery&tables=releases&fields=_pageName%3DPage%2Cname%3Dname%2Ctype%3Dtype%2Cconsole%3Dconsole%2Cregion%3Dregion%2Cdate%3Ddate%2Crrp%3Drrp%2Ccode%3Dcode%2Ccode2%3Dcode2%2Crating%3Drating&where=name%3D%22Ultimate+Soccer%22&join_on=&group_by=&having=&order_by%5B0%5D=&order_by_options%5B0%5D=ASC&limit=100&offset=0&format=
  
== Ratings template version 32142 ==
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we can strip the references away before the date is stored, but the question is... do we want to do that? Is it a good idea to store the reference(s)... somewhere?
  
{{RatingsTest
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Either way I ought to write this down since I've run out of time to fix it today -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 17:38, 12 January 2020 (EST)
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: Consoles using the newer system ([[template:ReleasesRowPlus]]) do strip references away. Mega Drive games are still on the old template, so it'll work when I update releasesMD. I had thought about separating refs for prices like this:
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: which would be fairly easy to do with replacetext. The main reason was that refs become invisible when they pass through [[template:price]], and this is the best way to keep them visible.
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: The problem is, you can't store refs in cargo like that. It would have to be "<nowiki>pc_rrpref_us=http://google.com</nowiki>", which is no good if you want more than one ref, or you want an intref/fileref/magref. My guess is any system we come up with would make templates horribly messy. I'm not too bothered about storing refs anyway, they're on the respective pages if anyone wants to look at them. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:17, 13 January 2020 (EST)
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== price ==
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[[Template:Price]] is stripping out references, meaning we're losing the superscript link things in bob templates - is that by design -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 06:13, 23 February 2020 (EST)
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: It's not by design. Extension:Cite has changed so that any string operation (e.g. explode) strips references. Older versions of Cite treated refs as a single character. I've already thought of a solution to make refs visible again, but it requires intervention from someone with higher wiki permissions than me. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:04, 23 February 2020 (EST)
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== GamePro en Español ==
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Something unpleasant:
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https://www.retromags.com/gallery/category/542-gamepro-en-espanol/
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"Gamepro en Español", a Spanish translation of GamePro. Retromags have this marked as an Argentinian magazine, but it's not - it's a "Latin America" magazine. There are cover variants for:
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*Argentina
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*Chile
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*Colombia
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*Ecuador
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*Mexico
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*Peru
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*Puerto Rico/Dominican Republic
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*Venezuela
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*[https://i.imgur.com/tN0FWL8.jpg and maybe a version for everywhere]
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how do we want to handle this? -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 15:12, 28 March 2020 (EDT)
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: Probably try to decide which is the "main" country and go with that. i.e. where their offices are based and where it was printed. We're already sort of doing this for some magazines which have US and Canadian prices on the cover. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 15:43, 28 March 2020 (EDT)
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== Error creating thumbnail Part II ==
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https://retrocdn.net/File:MD_Sonic_1_DE_TVAdvert.mp4
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What can I do to make this working right?-[[User:Lukdriver14|Lukdriver14]] ([[User talk:Lukdriver14|talk]]) 13:24, 10 June 2020 (EDT)
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: You're using the right codecs. It'll work when thumbnails & video transcoding are fixed on CDN. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 13:58, 10 June 2020 (EDT)
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== Erros in editing ==
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Everytime when i try to edit the page i have message *** Forbidden. Message seems to be spam. *** Why?
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I try to edit Sega Rally Revo page PC RU version in CD case, adding disk scan and divide versions on RU (CD case) and RU (DVD Case)
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: Something must be triggering a spam filter. Try adding one thing at a time, or editing the page without adding anything. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 19:03, 20 June 2020 (EDT)
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[[User:Depressor|Nemo Me Impune Lacessit]] ([[User talk:Depressor|talk]]) 13:36, 23 June 2020 (EDT) same thing... i cant even save page after editing button without doing changes.
  
I've built a ratings template that uses loops and fancy functions to generate a table, rather than having to check against its own list of publications. Feed it [[Sega Retro:Publication codes|a code]] and it'll generate [[:template:MagazineName|a name]] - should be a lot easier to maintain.
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== Issues with SoR3 image replacement ==
  
There isn't any support for websites, which is why I'm here - do we want to handle these in a different way? At some point there has to be a judgement about which websites are big or significant enough to be included, and regions aren't always applicable. Do we even want to handle websites at all? Just leave it to Metacritic?
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I've uploaded the mugshots for playable SoR3 characters using resources from SoR4. I then realised that those resources were missing a mugshot for Roo and got a hideous black outline. So, I tried to replace them with resources directly taken from SoR3. But after replacing them, I can see that the result is my initial upload pictures being resized to the sizes of the new uploaded pictures instead of having the new pictures completely replaced the initial pictures.
  
Also it doesn't automatically order by name. Also it doesn't include those little explanations about how scores are calculated.
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Is there a way to actually replace pictures? [[User:Xinyingho|Xinyingho]] ([[User talk:Xinyingho|talk]]) 05:35, 18 August 2020 (EDT)
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:It can take a few hours for the wiki to update thumbnails - your uploads are fine -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 06:02, 18 August 2020 (EDT)
  
I'm also thinking it might be better to have sources make use of the ref template - that way everything is grouped together at the bottom of the screen and it makes these wikis look more researched and cool.
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== CDN ==
  
p.s. I had to fight this template to get it to work - it may be possible to simplify it. Or at least make the code look prettier -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 11:33, 15 June 2016 (CDT)
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Can you delete files that I marked on Retro CDN? Thanks.
: Looks like it works pretty well, even with multiple instances of the template. Websites I don't care much about. Maybe we could just have a link to Metacritic at the bottom of the collapsible bit, which appears when metacritic=yes is set or something. Using the ref template should be as simple as modifying template:num slightly, which I would be in favour of. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:38, 15 June 2016 (CDT)
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: Why did you upload those files in the first place? You've created a lot of work for us, so don't expect it to be done quickly. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 12:00, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
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::Sorry for that. How long would this take ?
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:::Could you please delete these files on Retro CDN in this week? It's not about giving you extra work, but the sooner you remove it, the sooner I'll stop bothering you with this problem.
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::::Could you write me anything?
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::::: I told you it won't be done quickly. I'd have to find and upload pdf replacements for most of them. I'm already quite busy with other things on here, so dealing with this is a low priority. It'll probably be done in a month or two, if you're lucky. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 17:47, 14 September 2020 (EDT)
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::::::But these files are no longer needed and can be deleted. In each page where they been I added the appropriate page which will be in PDF version. I also gave few months ago links where you can look for it. Plus some of these PDFs are already on Retro CDN but the JPGs of those scans are still waiting to be deleted.
  
== Promotional material ==
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== how good are you with double quotes ==
  
I think we need a rethink on how we do promotional material. At the moment we're just dumping things in a gallery - I would hazard a guess this might get a bit unwieldy over time (with the [[Mega Drive]] it already is), and galleries aren't great for describing things in detail.
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This is annoying me
  
Rather than upload print adverts individually as JPEGs, I'm tempted to just use the PDF magazines they were printed in (where applicable). That way we don't have duplicate files and have a better means to date things - we can work out exactly when Sega started advertising x deal or y game, which in turn gives us a clearer understanding of when games were released and etc. We can also work out which magazines Sega prioritised - I know Sega Europe fell out with [[DC-UK]], so did they pull advertising? That sort of thing.
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[[Template:RatingsTableAll]]
  
It would also let us see if, for example, France got a game a few months before Germany - you could extrapolate it and say, well Sega of France is offering better deals so maybe the console isn't doing as well in that country, and so on.
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[[Evander Holyfield's "Real Deal" Boxing (Game Gear)]] breaks because there are double quotes in the name. In order to query a name with double quotes in SQL you have to use two " characters
  
I know some television campaigns started in the half-time Superbowl ad break in the US. I know some arcade flyers were only offered at ECTS or an AM Show or whatever. I also have a fairly reasonable understanding of who was in charge of Sega of America's marketing budget at any given point (in the 90s at least)
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e.g.
  
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<pre>name = "Evander Holyfield's ""Real Deal"" Boxing (Game Gear)"</pre>
  
But I'm unsure how to display all this - another sub-page like magazine articles? Do we mix TV and print ads? Magtable template, or something more... "visual"? Leave it alone until someone fixes MP4 support? -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 14:07, 3 July 2016 (CDT)
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... and I think I'm doing this, but somewhere between passing arguments through templates, this breaks for some reason. I don't suppose you have any ideas why, before I start throwing more hacky code at it -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 09:35, 1 April 2021 (EDT)
: My plan was to delete separate jpegs and use pdfs where possible (with [[template:gallery]] for two-page ads). There needs to be a bit more info, such as dates and a list of places the ad was published. I don't think it warrants a sub-page because most games would only have 2-3 ads per country.
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: I think it might be a bug. It looks like you can't use a query with format=template if the invoked template itself ([[Template:RatingsTableAll/Cargo]]) does more queries. Notice how the name looks fine but the scores are broken, which doesn't really make sense (you'd expect both should break or neither). All I can suggest is that we never store quotemarks in cargo tables. Replace them with :qm: or something as they're stored and then replace back to quotes for the page output. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 23:13, 1 April 2021 (EDT)
  
{{gallery
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== Instruction Manual Scans ==
|Mega UK 01.pdf¦page#9¦UK print advert in {{MagazineName|cvg|123}}<small>also published in ''MegaTech'', ''Sega Magazine''.</small>
 
|Mega UK 01.pdf¦page#10-11¦UK print advert in {{MagazineName|mega|1}}; also published in ''Edge'', ''Mean Machines''.
 
}}
 
  
: This is more or less what I had in mind. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 16:02, 3 July 2016 (CDT)
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I have a lot of front cover scans of instructions from most PAL megadrive, game gear, mega CD and 32X games releases (must have about 800-900 different scans).  On the upload page it says to only upload PDFs of instructions.  just wondering if you would want me to upload as placeholders until PDFs are available. [[User:Nova Toad|Nova Toad]] ([[User talk:Nova Toad|talk]]) 08:30, 7 May 2021 (EDT)
:: The "also published in" things could have refs. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 15:37, 5 July 2016 (CDT)
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: I don't really see the point of having placeholders myself, but I suppose some people might argue it's better than nothing. Upload them if you want, but make sure you tag the images with <nowiki>{{PDFneeded}}</nowiki>. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 14:28, 7 May 2021 (EDT)
::: So if we had the same advert in four or five magazines, which mag gets to be used in the gallery? First published, best quality scan, first alphabetically or do we not care? Would we want to prioritise official Sega magazines (e.g. Sega Visions), and, uh... "cleaner" variants (i.e. ones that don't have "CIRCLE X ON READER SERVICE CARD" printed at the bottom)? -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 04:47, 6 July 2016 (CDT)
 
:::: First published probably. Although I imagine the ads were sent to publishers all at the same time, and which one came first is just down to the magazine's particular schedule, so it may not matter too much. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 06:50, 6 July 2016 (CDT)
 
  
Something to note - some print adverts jump between pages (e.g. there might be one spread across pages 1, 3, 5 and 7, as opposed to 1, 2, 3 and 4) - we might have to add support for this at some stage. It doesn't affect Sega adverts too much, but I've come across a couple of TG16 ones.
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== video overkilled the radio star ==
  
p.s. we need a better way of handling more... "popular" ads. I've got this [[Phantasy Star]] ad linked up to four magazines so far, and that's just EGM. The description is already twice the height of the thumbnail -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 10:58, 9 July 2016 (CDT)
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https://archive.org/details/the-house-of-the-dead-overkill-asset.-7z
  
{{gallery
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this came through a couple of days ago - I can handle the images, but there's a 126MB mov file that I don't know what to do with. I really must learn how video formats work one day -[[User:Black Squirrel|Black Squirrel]] ([[User talk:Black Squirrel|talk]]) 17:40, 28 May 2021 (EDT)
|EGM US BuyersGuide 1989.pdf¦page#53¦US print advert in {{MagazineName|egm|bg89}}; {{collapse|also published in|{{MagazineName|egm|1}}{{fileref|EGM US 001.pdf|page=47}}, {{MagazineName|egm|2}}{{fileref|EGM US 002.pdf|page=68}}, {{MagazineName|egm|3}}{{fileref|EGM US 003.pdf|page=55}}|compact=yes}}
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: It wouldn't be playable on here because it's not h264 (it uses a codec called "sowt", which I've never heard of). I had an idea about uploading both the original and a playable version of promo videos, with a link to the original on the playable file page, but it's not really ideal. I was slightly concerned about server space too. - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 18:09, 28 May 2021 (EDT)
}}
 
: Maybe this? - [[User:Hivebrain|Hivebrain]] ([[User talk:Hivebrain|talk]]) 11:34, 9 July 2016 (CDT)
 

Latest revision as of 18:14, 28 May 2021

Link-up cable

Thank you for taking notice of my article. I am new at wiki editing so if something seems not right, just say and i will try to learn to correct my errors quickly.

one question: how do you know the original cable was Manufactured by Techno pop, i understand they designed it and presumably own the patent, and i could only assume Accolade distributed it, but the manufacturer i can't find solid proof of. this site seems to suggest Sega itself made them, but the photo on this link is dubious, since it could just be shot of a Genesis control pad plug http://segaage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=127730 I would absolutely love it if you could shed more light on this obscure peripheral

Regards Jun

I just assumed they made it, but if we're not sure then I'll change it back. - Hivebrain (talk) 16:21, 5 March 2019 (EST)

That would be advisable, Thanks. User:Jun The Detective 22:52 05/03/2019

Bollycao Eternal Champions Stickers

Can I ask you something? ... is it possible for you to delete a page? ... I'm asking because when I found these Bollycao Eternal Champions Stickers they were named as Bollycao stickers (just google for "Bollycao Eternal Champions" and you will see what I'm talking about)... when in fact they aren't... they are actually a set of stickers that was given away with the Spanish magazine "Todo Sega"... so they should be on "Todo Sega" page as extras... with that said the "Bollycao Eternal Champions Stickers" page shouldn't exist...--Asagoth (talk) 19:53, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Changes to the Releases templates

Will the changes to the Releases templates be carried over to more systems like the Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo Switch in due time? It'll be easier for when I'm doing the 3D Classics and Sega Ages pages. --SorachiJirachi (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2019 (EDT)

Yes, and I was planning to do the Nintendo ones next. I've only been doing them as I need them, but if it helps I can update the 3DS/Switch ones sooner. - Hivebrain (talk) 20:37, 22 April 2019 (EDT)
That would be great. Cheers. --SorachiJirachi (talk) 20:45, 22 April 2019 (EDT)

Error creating thumbnail

https://retrocdn.net/File:Neo_Plus_10_PL.pdf Do you know how to remove this error in Neo and Neo Plus scans ?

Are you using this program to compile the PDFs? - Hivebrain (talk) 11:01, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
With other files yes but all the scans from Neo and Neo Plus were created in adultpdf.--Lukdriver14 (talk) 11:25, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

Company

I have this nasty habit of looking at templates at the end of the day.

Took your advice with Streets of Rage 2 Original Soundtrack, using Template:Company, but... it's not working... and I don't understand why. While the text is appearing on the page as expected, nothing is being added to the database. First glance suggests Template:MusicBob looks like Template:Bob - I don't know why it's not behaving in the same way.


While I'm here, I had a fresh look at Template talk:Porttable earlier in the week - I can't see myself actually finishing this job, and it's probably for a similar reason - the act of getting company information into the database, with all these loose variables and things that can go wrong, is just really really awkward.

I'm thinking from an end user perspective, instead of having to pass multiple templates in as arguments, if we could get a situation where we were passing in a fancy-pants list, e.g.:


{{companies
|||AcademySoft-ELORG|0
|||[[Mirrorsoft]]|1
|||[[Atari Games]]|2
|arcade|JP|[[Sega]]|3
|||[[Tengen]]|3
|MD|JP|[[Sega]]|4
}}


(hardware|region|name|level)


AcademySoft-ELORG (licensor)
DownRightArrow.svg Mirrorsoft (licensor)
    DownRightArrow.svg Atari Games (licensor)

        DownRightArrow.svg

Arcade

Sega (JP) (publisher)

        DownRightArrow.svg Tengen (licensor)

            DownRightArrow.svg

Sega Mega Drive

Sega (JP) (publisher)

I think life might be (relatively) simpler for people. And we could have maths work out how to store things in the database. -Black Squirrel (talk) 16:52, 4 May 2019 (EDT)

I think it's because there's no system specified. Usually in that case, Template:Company is supposed to pull systems from Bob's system parameter. MusicBob doesn't have a system, so the variable is blank and it's probably doing nothing. It made sense while I was writing it, but the whole thing's a bit of a mess. I'll have a think and hopefully come up with something a bit more elegant. - Hivebrain (talk) 18:00, 4 May 2019 (EDT)

Bugged-up releases table for Sonic Generations 3DS

I copied over the added release info for Sonic Generations (Nintendo 3DS) from its respective page from Sonic Retro, but now I have a problem. While it looks fine over on Sonic Retro, it's messed up somehow on Sega Retro in that almost everything is designated as a digital download when some of them aren't supposed to be. Could you look into this? --SorachiJirachi (talk) 22:11, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

I made a mistake in the releases templates. It should be okay now. - Hivebrain (talk) 00:23, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

Segaretro does'nt work in Flashpeak slimjet web browser

Hi, I'm not exactly sure where i should ask this, but since you are a site administrator I was hoping you could help or at least give me an idea.

I was going to upgrade my browser from firefox to slimjet (a deeply modified version of Chrome)and most pages work, but when i try to access any page on segaretro.org it won't let me in and displays this:


This site can’t provide a secure connection. segaretro.org uses an unsupported protocol. ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH Unsupported protocol, The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure''.


I don't know if this is specific to slimjet, but i never had this issue with firefox V52, or K-meleon.

--Jun The Detective 18:13, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

It's not my area of expertise, but I've passed it along to the rest of the staff. - Hivebrain (talk) 18:25, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

Assistance

Hello. Sorry for taking up space in your talk section. But my account has been deleted for the second time without my knowledge. And not i am not allowed to edit or contribute. Since you are an admin, can you tell me what i did wrong? - Peace MkIII

We don't delete user accounts here. However, we did switch to the Retro CDN user database a while ago, so if you created your account before that then it's probably gone. - Hivebrain (talk) 14:46, 16 November 2019 (EST)
Thank you for your time.

Releases bug

Found a thing:

The Mega Drive version of Ultimate Soccer has two references for its earliest date (the UK one). This creates a string that is apparently "too big" to work with once it's been through the database:

https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=Special%3ACargoQuery&tables=releases&fields=_pageName%3DPage%2Cname%3Dname%2Ctype%3Dtype%2Cconsole%3Dconsole%2Cregion%3Dregion%2Cdate%3Ddate%2Crrp%3Drrp%2Ccode%3Dcode%2Ccode2%3Dcode2%2Crating%3Drating&where=name%3D%22Ultimate+Soccer%22&join_on=&group_by=&having=&order_by%5B0%5D=&order_by_options%5B0%5D=ASC&limit=100&offset=0&format=

we can strip the references away before the date is stored, but the question is... do we want to do that? Is it a good idea to store the reference(s)... somewhere?

Either way I ought to write this down since I've run out of time to fix it today -Black Squirrel (talk) 17:38, 12 January 2020 (EST)

Consoles using the newer system (template:ReleasesRowPlus) do strip references away. Mega Drive games are still on the old template, so it'll work when I update releasesMD. I had thought about separating refs for prices like this:
| pc_rrp_us=9.99
| pc_rrpref_us={{ref|http://google.com}}
which would be fairly easy to do with replacetext. The main reason was that refs become invisible when they pass through template:price, and this is the best way to keep them visible.
The problem is, you can't store refs in cargo like that. It would have to be "pc_rrpref_us=http://google.com", which is no good if you want more than one ref, or you want an intref/fileref/magref. My guess is any system we come up with would make templates horribly messy. I'm not too bothered about storing refs anyway, they're on the respective pages if anyone wants to look at them. - Hivebrain (talk) 14:17, 13 January 2020 (EST)

price

Template:Price is stripping out references, meaning we're losing the superscript link things in bob templates - is that by design -Black Squirrel (talk) 06:13, 23 February 2020 (EST)

It's not by design. Extension:Cite has changed so that any string operation (e.g. explode) strips references. Older versions of Cite treated refs as a single character. I've already thought of a solution to make refs visible again, but it requires intervention from someone with higher wiki permissions than me. - Hivebrain (talk) 14:04, 23 February 2020 (EST)

GamePro en Español

Something unpleasant:

https://www.retromags.com/gallery/category/542-gamepro-en-espanol/

"Gamepro en Español", a Spanish translation of GamePro. Retromags have this marked as an Argentinian magazine, but it's not - it's a "Latin America" magazine. There are cover variants for:

  • Argentina
  • Chile
  • Colombia
  • Ecuador
  • Mexico
  • Peru
  • Puerto Rico/Dominican Republic
  • Venezuela

how do we want to handle this? -Black Squirrel (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2020 (EDT)

Probably try to decide which is the "main" country and go with that. i.e. where their offices are based and where it was printed. We're already sort of doing this for some magazines which have US and Canadian prices on the cover. - Hivebrain (talk) 15:43, 28 March 2020 (EDT)

Error creating thumbnail Part II

https://retrocdn.net/File:MD_Sonic_1_DE_TVAdvert.mp4 What can I do to make this working right?-Lukdriver14 (talk) 13:24, 10 June 2020 (EDT)

You're using the right codecs. It'll work when thumbnails & video transcoding are fixed on CDN. - Hivebrain (talk) 13:58, 10 June 2020 (EDT)

Erros in editing

Everytime when i try to edit the page i have message *** Forbidden. Message seems to be spam. *** Why?

I try to edit Sega Rally Revo page PC RU version in CD case, adding disk scan and divide versions on RU (CD case) and RU (DVD Case)

Something must be triggering a spam filter. Try adding one thing at a time, or editing the page without adding anything. - Hivebrain (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2020 (EDT)

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit (talk) 13:36, 23 June 2020 (EDT) same thing... i cant even save page after editing button without doing changes.

Issues with SoR3 image replacement

I've uploaded the mugshots for playable SoR3 characters using resources from SoR4. I then realised that those resources were missing a mugshot for Roo and got a hideous black outline. So, I tried to replace them with resources directly taken from SoR3. But after replacing them, I can see that the result is my initial upload pictures being resized to the sizes of the new uploaded pictures instead of having the new pictures completely replaced the initial pictures.

Is there a way to actually replace pictures? Xinyingho (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2020 (EDT)

It can take a few hours for the wiki to update thumbnails - your uploads are fine -Black Squirrel (talk) 06:02, 18 August 2020 (EDT)

CDN

Can you delete files that I marked on Retro CDN? Thanks.

Why did you upload those files in the first place? You've created a lot of work for us, so don't expect it to be done quickly. - Hivebrain (talk) 12:00, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
Sorry for that. How long would this take ?
Could you please delete these files on Retro CDN in this week? It's not about giving you extra work, but the sooner you remove it, the sooner I'll stop bothering you with this problem.
Could you write me anything?
I told you it won't be done quickly. I'd have to find and upload pdf replacements for most of them. I'm already quite busy with other things on here, so dealing with this is a low priority. It'll probably be done in a month or two, if you're lucky. - Hivebrain (talk) 17:47, 14 September 2020 (EDT)
But these files are no longer needed and can be deleted. In each page where they been I added the appropriate page which will be in PDF version. I also gave few months ago links where you can look for it. Plus some of these PDFs are already on Retro CDN but the JPGs of those scans are still waiting to be deleted.

how good are you with double quotes

This is annoying me

Template:RatingsTableAll

Evander Holyfield's "Real Deal" Boxing (Game Gear) breaks because there are double quotes in the name. In order to query a name with double quotes in SQL you have to use two " characters

e.g.

name = "Evander Holyfield's ""Real Deal"" Boxing (Game Gear)"

... and I think I'm doing this, but somewhere between passing arguments through templates, this breaks for some reason. I don't suppose you have any ideas why, before I start throwing more hacky code at it -Black Squirrel (talk) 09:35, 1 April 2021 (EDT)

I think it might be a bug. It looks like you can't use a query with format=template if the invoked template itself (Template:RatingsTableAll/Cargo) does more queries. Notice how the name looks fine but the scores are broken, which doesn't really make sense (you'd expect both should break or neither). All I can suggest is that we never store quotemarks in cargo tables. Replace them with :qm: or something as they're stored and then replace back to quotes for the page output. - Hivebrain (talk) 23:13, 1 April 2021 (EDT)

Instruction Manual Scans

I have a lot of front cover scans of instructions from most PAL megadrive, game gear, mega CD and 32X games releases (must have about 800-900 different scans). On the upload page it says to only upload PDFs of instructions. just wondering if you would want me to upload as placeholders until PDFs are available. Nova Toad (talk) 08:30, 7 May 2021 (EDT)

I don't really see the point of having placeholders myself, but I suppose some people might argue it's better than nothing. Upload them if you want, but make sure you tag the images with {{PDFneeded}}. - Hivebrain (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2021 (EDT)

video overkilled the radio star

https://archive.org/details/the-house-of-the-dead-overkill-asset.-7z

this came through a couple of days ago - I can handle the images, but there's a 126MB mov file that I don't know what to do with. I really must learn how video formats work one day -Black Squirrel (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2021 (EDT)

It wouldn't be playable on here because it's not h264 (it uses a codec called "sowt", which I've never heard of). I had an idea about uploading both the original and a playable version of promo videos, with a link to the original on the playable file page, but it's not really ideal. I was slightly concerned about server space too. - Hivebrain (talk) 18:09, 28 May 2021 (EDT)