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*''[[Space Tactics]]'' 1980; '''C''' Sega '''F M''' Gremlin/Sega | *''[[Space Tactics]]'' 1980; '''C''' Sega '''F M''' Gremlin/Sega | ||
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*''[[Star Raker]]'' 198x (assumed west germany only) | *''[[Star Raker]]'' 198x (assumed west germany only) |
Revision as of 10:42, 1 December 2013
So when did Sega start in house development of video games?
I don't know the situation with Sega/Gremlin. I don't know if anything on "Sega Blockade Hardware" had anything to do with Sega at all.
The VIC Dual — where did the VIC come from? PCB shots? Promotion only called it DUAL. VIC Tokai? They started around the time the earliest VIC Dual games came out, and those were all Gremlin too. VIC Tokai's games with Seibu lease were done dba Graphic Techno EW
- http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Interview:Shouichi_Yoshikawa
- VIC Tokai and Seibu Lease worked together since the days of the Famicom. I think it was Aigiina no Yogen [FC] where the VIC Tokai name was first used. Before that, Graphic Techno EW was used. I believe that Sega's Calorie-kun [vs. Moguranian, AC] was released with the Graphic Techno EW name.
Aigiina no Yogen was apparently 1986. Of course "since the days of the Famicom" could mean ... they used the mane before?
Could we use the SG-1000 games to find out when were Sega starting in house video game development? I doubt. The first three titles on the SG-1000 were N-Sub, Safari Hunt, and Borderline — and we know they were all outsourced to Compile... or one of the various companies that merged into them
- Think Soft (Bee & Flower)
- Programmers-3 (E.I.)
- Nisso (Hustle Chumy MSX)
Or one not listed here. Or they could have been Compile but after the merger and we don't know because we don't have date information (except year), though on older Compile Game History pages (before they split the pages by console) Bee & Flower was listed earliest (last), followed by the three SG-1000 games.
Zaxxon was outsourced to Ikegami Tsushiniki, most known for doing Donkey Kong for Nintendo. It has their graphic symbol in VRAM and I highly doubt it's just a coincidence... of course we (I) could do code comparisons =P (What is a coincidence? They did Congo Bongo.)
Contents
part 2
from MAME svn rev 26154 (latest bleeding edge at the time); all parent sets released before 1989 with Sega in the manufacturer name
present hypothesis: either buck rogers or super locomotive was the first to be internally developed by the japanese side of sega
198? megatech.c mt_gsocr 0 Sega Great Soccer (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 198? segajw.c segajw 0 Sega Golden Poker Series "Joker's Wild" (Rev. B) <TODO re-extract credits> maincpu ROM has credits and 1991 copyright; I'm guessing they're waiting until the driver works to actually edit information 1979 vicdual.c headon2 0 Sega Head On 2 Gremlin Industries 1979 vicdual.c invds 0 Sega Invinco / Deep Scan 1979 vicdual.c invho2 0 Sega Invinco / Head On 2 1979 vicdual.c invinco 0 Sega Invinco Gremlin Industries 1979 vicdual.c sspacaho 0 Sega Space Attack / Head On 1979 vicdual.c sspaceat 0 Sega Space Attack (upright set 1) 1980 vicdual.c carnival 0 Sega Carnival (upright) Gremlin Industries 1980 vicdual.c digger 0 Sega Digger Gremlin Industries 1980 vicdual.c nsub 0 Sega N-Sub (upright) 1980 vicdual.c samurai 0 Sega Samurai 1980 vicdual.c spacetrk 0 Sega Space Trek (upright) 1980 vicdual.c tranqgun 0 Sega Tranquilizer Gun 1981 kopunch.c kopunch 0 Sega KO Punch 1981 segag80r.c 005 0 Sega 005 1981 segag80r.c astrob 0 Sega Astro Blaster (version 3) Gremlin Industries 1981 segag80r.c spaceod 0 Sega Space Odyssey (version 2) 1981 segag80v.c spacfury 0 Sega Space Fury (revision C) Gremlin Industries 1981 stactics.c stactics 0 Sega Space Tactics 1981 turbo.c turbo 0 Sega Turbo 1981 vicdual.c brdrline 0 Sega Borderline 1981 vicdual.c pulsar 0 Sega Pulsar Gremlin Industries 1982 pacman.c alibaba 0 Sega Ali Baba and 40 Thieves 1982 pengo.c pengo 0 Sega Pengo (set 1 rev c) Coreland (actually was this made while the company was called Hoei?) 1982 rallyx.c tactcian 0 Konami (Sega license) Tactician (set 1) 1982 segag80r.c monsterb 0 Sega Monster Bash 1982 segag80v.c startrek 0 Sega Star Trek Gremlin Industries/Sega Electronics (possibly as the latter; need to check ROM) 1982 segag80v.c tacscan 0 Sega Tac/Scan Gremlin Industries/Sega Electronics (possibly as the latter; need to check ROM) 1982 segag80v.c zektor 0 Sega Zektor (revision B) Gremlin Industries 1982 suprloco.c suprloco 0 Sega Super Locomotive (Rev.A) 5 SEGA FUKUMURAMIZUNAGAkh 1982 turbo.c buckrog 0 Sega Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom [<< ZOOM-909 >>]SEGA ENTERPRISES R&D DEPERTMENT PROGRM BY HIDEKI,ISHIKAWA SECULITY BY MASATOSHI,MIZUNAGA TEL JAPAN 03-742-7311 R/D 21,DECEMBER,1982<< DON`T COPY >>EYOR UPRIGHT 1982 turbo.c subroc3d 0 Sega Subroc-3D SEGA ENTERPRISES M.YOSHII M.TOTSUKA 1982 zaxxon.c szaxxon 0 Sega Super Zaxxon (315-5013) 1982 zaxxon.c zaxxon 0 Sega Zaxxon (set 1) Ikegami Tsushinki 1983 cclimber.c yamato 0 Sega Yamato (US) ELS 1983 champbas.c champbas 0 Alpha Denshi Co. (Sega license) Champion Base Ball Alpha Denshi 1983 champbas.c champbb2 0 Alpha Denshi Co. (Sega license) Champion Base Ball Part-2: Pair Play (set 1) Alpha Denshi 1983 marineb.c hopprobo 0 Sega Hopper Robo 1983 rallyx.c commsega 0 Sega Commando (Sega) ELS 1983 segag80r.c pignewt 0 Sega Pig Newton (version C) Sega Electronics 1983 segag80r.c sindbadm 0 Sega Sindbad Mystery 1983 segald.c astron 0 Sega Astron Belt 1983 segald.c galaxyr 0 Sega Galaxy Ranger 1983 system1.c regulus 0 Sega Regulus (315-5033, Rev A.) ) 09/DEC/1983 SEGA. ... !REGULUS !PROGRAMED BY HIDEKI,ISHIKAWA.SECULITY BY SYUICHI,KATAGI.SEGA ENTERPRISESCONTINUE VER.Cm 1983 system1.c starjack 0 Sega Star Jacker (Sega) ---STAR JACKER---### SECURED BY ###MASATOSHI MIZUNAGAPROGRAMED BY HIROSHI NAKAYAMA KATSUYA KAZIHARA KATSUNORI KANAZAWADESIGNED BY EIRO NAGATA SHOZO TAKIHI SOUND BY HIDEO KUME SEGA ENTERPRISES 22 APRIL 1983HARD WORK BY HIDEKI SATO CREATOR BY TAKAYA IDA0 1983 system1.c upndown 0 Sega Up'n Down (315-5030) ( 19/SEP 1983 MASATOSHI,MIZUNAGAgSb ... _SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASATOSHI MIZUNAGA SECURITY BY MASAGAME NAME BY UP'N DOWN GAME NAME BY UP'N DOWN GAME NAME BY UP'N DOWN GAME NAME BY UP'N DOWN SEGA ENTERPRISES JAPAN SEGA ENTERPRISES JAPAN SEGA ENTERPRISES JAPAN SEGA ENTERPRISES JAPAN SEGA ENTERPRISES JAP[[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! ]]]]][[[[ DONT COPY !!!!!! UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPTEMBER 1983 UP BY 13 SEPyasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi ni shigoto o sasuna !!??yasymi nyasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! yasumi ga hoshii !! yasumuzo !! 1983 zaxxon.c congo 0 Sega Congo Bongo (Rev C, 2 board stack) Ikegami Tsushinki 1983 zaxxon.c ixion 0 Sega Ixion (prototype) Sega Electronics 1983 zaxxon.c razmataz 0 Sega Razzmatazz Sega Electronics 1984 appoooh.c appoooh 0 Sanritsu / Sega Appoooh Sanritsu 1984 bankp.c bankp 0 Sanritsu / Sega Bank Panic Sanritsu 1984 gpworld.c gpworld 0 Sega GP World 1984 sg1000a.c chboxing 0 Sega Champion Boxing 1984 system1.c bullfgt 0 Coreland / Sega Bullfight (315-5065) Coreland 1984 system1.c flicky 0 Sega Flicky (128k Version, System 2, 315-5051) 1984/05/24 SEGA R/D [[ FLICKY !!]] OLD NAME 1) BUSTY 2) FLIPP PROGRAMED BY HIDEKI.ISHIKAWA SHUICHI.KATAGI GAME DESIGNED BY YOJI.ISHII CHARACTOR DESIGNED BY YOSHIKI.KAWASAKI SECURITY BY S.KATAGI ALL RIGHT RESERVED [[ DON'T COPY !! ]] [[ DON'T COPY !! ]] [[ DON'T COPY !! ]] [[ DON'T COPY !! ] 1984 system1.c mrviking 0 Sega Mister Viking (315-5041) (MISTER VIKING VER U.S.A.SEGA 1984/04/09 PROGRAMED BY A.KAWAHARA AND K.IWANAGA SECURITY BY S.KATAGI CONTROL CHIP M140 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/03/28 DON'T COPY!SEGA 1984/S 1984 system1.c spatter 0 Sega Spatter 1984 system1.c swat 0 Coreland / Sega SWAT (315-5048) Coreland 1984 system1.c wmatch 0 Sega Water Match (315-5064) `(8PROGRAMED BY KAWAHARA&NAKAGAWA PROGRAMED BY KAWAHARA&NAKAGAWA PROGRAMED BY KAWAHARA&NAKAGAWA PROGRAMED BY KAWAHARA&NAKAGAWA PROGRAMED BY KAWAHARA&NAKAGAWA PROGRAMSECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SECURITY BY R.NAKAGAWA SEC 1984 zaxxon.c futspy 0 Sega Future Spy (315-5061) 1985 kyugo.c flashgal 0 Kyugo / Sega Flashgal (set 1) 1985 kyugo.c repulse 0 Crux / Sega Repulse Crux 1985 segae.c hangonjr 0 Sega Hang-On Jr. 1985 segahang.c hangon 0 Sega Hang-On (Rev A) 1985 segahang.c sharrier 0 Sega Space Harrier (Rev A, 8751 315-5163A) PROGRAM YU SUZUKI 1985 NOVNuA 1985 segas16a.c mjleague 0 Sega Major League 1985 sg1000a.c chwrestl 0 Sega Champion Pro Wrestling K.Kanazawa 1985 sg1000a.c dokidoki 0 Sega Doki Doki Penguin Land 1985 system1.c 4dwarrio 0 Coreland / Sega 4-D Warriors (315-5162) Coreland 1985 system1.c choplift 0 Sega Choplifter (8751 315-5151) 1985 system1.c hvymetal 0 Sega Heavy Metal (315-5135) 1985 system1.c imsorry 0 Coreland / Sega I'm Sorry (315-5110, US) Coreland 1985 system1.c myhero 0 Coreland / Sega My Hero (US, not encrypted) Coreland 1985 system1.c pitfall2 0 Sega Pitfall II (315-5093) 1985 system1.c seganinj 0 Sega Sega Ninja (315-5102) W 1985/03/14 SEGA R/D [[ NINJA !!]] 1985 system1.c shtngmst 0 Sega Shooting Master (8751 315-5159) 1985 system1.c teddybb 0 Sega TeddyBoy Blues (315-5115, New Ver.) 1986 angelkds.c spcpostn 0 Sega / Nasco Space Position (Japan) 1986 appoooh.c robowres 0 Sanritsu / Sega Robo Wres 2001 Sanritsu 1986 calorie.c calorie 0 Sega Calorie Kun vs Moguranian Graphic Techno EW 1986 freekick.c gigas 0 Sega Gigas (MC-8123, 317-5002) 1986 kyugo.c legend 0 Kyugo / Sega Legend STAFF S[MIKI@@@@@@M[HARADA S[KAMEI@@@@@M[ABE Y[TANAKA@@@@T[INOUE K[NAKAYAMA@@K[MARUYAMA 1986 megatech.c mt_astro 0 Sega Astro Warrior (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1986 segae.c ridleofp 0 Sega / Nasco Riddle of Pythagoras (Japan) EXA Planning 1986 segae.c transfrm 0 Sega Transformer 1986 segahang.c enduror 0 Sega Enduro Racer (YM2151, FD1089B 317-0013A) 1986 segaorun.c outrun 0 Sega Out Run (sitdown/upright, Rev B) PROGRAM YU SUZUKI 1986 SEP 1986 segas16a.c afighter 0 Sega Action Fighter (FD1089A 317-0018) 1986 segas16a.c alexkidd 0 Sega Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars (set 2, unprotected) 1986 segas16a.c bodyslam 0 Sega Body Slam (8751 317-0015) 1986 segas16a.c fantzone 0 Sega Fantasy Zone (Rev A, unprotected) 1986 segas16a.c quartet 0 Sega Quartet (Rev A, 8751 315-5194) 1986 segas16b.c dunkshot 0 Sega Dunk Shot (FD1089A 317-0022) 1986 system1.c brain 0 Coreland / Sega Brain Coreland 1986 system1.c gardia 0 Coreland / Sega Gardia (317-0006) Coreland 1986 system1.c raflesia 0 Coreland / Sega Rafflesia (315-5162) Coreland 1986 system1.c wboy 0 Escape (Sega license) Wonder Boy (set 1, 315-5177) Escape 1987 bankp.c combh 0 Sanritsu / Sega Combat Hawk Sanritsu 1987 megatech.c mt_aftrb 0 Sega After Burner (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_asyn 0 Sega Alien Syndrome (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_fz 0 Sega Fantasy Zone (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_gfoot 0 Sega Great Football (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_ggolf 0 Sega Great Golf (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_orun 0 Sega Out Run (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_parlg 0 Sega Parlour Games (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 megatech.c mt_shnbi 0 Sega Shinobi (Mega-Tech, SMS based) 1987 segae.c opaopa 0 Sega Opa Opa (MC-8123, 317-0042) 1987 segaorun.c shangon 0 Sega Super Hang-On (sitdown/upright, unprotected) 1987 segas16a.c sdi 0 Sega SDI - Strategic Defense Initiative (Japan, old, System 16A, FD1089B 317-0027) 1987 segas16a.c shinobi 0 Sega Shinobi (set 6, System 16A, unprotected) STAFF SUGACHAN 26 WAGAMAMA KENCHI T O P I GYOFUNORI HANACHAN SUPER HAGGAR FANTA JIJII YAMIAGARI SHINJUKU OTOKO SPECIAL THANKS PACHINKER UKE PONCHAN 25 1987 segas16b.c aliensyn 0 Sega Alien Syndrome (set 4, System 16B, unprotected) 1987 segas16b.c bullet 0 Sega Bullet (FD1094 317-0041) 1987 segas16b.c hwchamp 0 Sega Heavyweight Champ PLANNER BRAVO OGU DOROYA JUN PROGRAMER MR\ MINALYN BIG HILL COLLISION UKEPI IPPO OGAPI MECHANICIAN PACHISLO YUKI OJI KEN NASAKE 2 DESIGNER AKANAT OTAKA SHIN K A O MUSICIAN FUNKEY K\H\ SPECIAL THANKS USO HAPPYAKU 1987 segas16b.c sonicbom 0 Sega Sonic Boom (FD1094 317-0053) 1987 segas16b.c suprleag 0 Sega Super League (FD1094 317-0045) 1987 segas16b.c timescan 0 Sega Time Scanner (set 2, System 16B) 1987 segaxbd.c aburner2 0 Sega After Burner II PRESENTED BY SEGA I LOVE MOMOKO AGESBY PROGRAMED BY YU SUZUKI B!"x S.MIFUNE ... YU. BIN SDI BIN DANGER!! I LOVE KIYOMI LUCKY BOY!! [I think these are messages that appear if you enter certain names in the hi score table and that there is a graphical component to each message...] 1987 segaxbd.c thndrbld1 thndrbld Sega Thunder Blade (deluxe/standing, unprotected) 1987 shtzone.c shtzone 0 Sega Shooting Zone System BIOS 1987 system1.c blockgal 0 Sega / Vic Tokai Block Gal (MC-8123B, 317-0029) VIC Tokai 1987 system1.c tokisens 0 Sega Toki no Senshi - Chrono Soldier 1987 system1.c wbml 0 Sega / Westone Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Japan New Ver., MC-8123, 317-0043) Westone 1988 angelkds.c angelkds 0 Sega / Nasco? Angel Kids (Japan) EXA Planning 1988 freekick.c countrun 0 Nihon System (Sega license) Counter Run (NS6201-A 1988.3) 1988 megatech.c mt_beast 0 Sega Altered Beast (Mega-Tech) 1988 megatech.c mt_shar2 0 Sega Space Harrier II (Mega-Tech) 1988 megatech.c mt_stbld 0 Sega Super Thunder Blade (Mega-Tech) 1988 segae.c fantzn2 0 Sega Fantasy Zone II - The Tears of Opa-Opa (MC-8123, 317-0057) 1988 segae.c tetrisse 0 Sega Tetris (Japan, System E) 1988 segas16a.c tetris 0 Sega Tetris (set 4, Japan, System 16A, FD1094 317-0093) 1988 segas16b.c aceattac 0 Sega Ace Attacker (FD1094 317-0059) 1988 segas16b.c altbeast 0 Sega Altered Beast (set 8, 8751 317-0078) KONO GAME WA SEGA R/D TEAM SHINOBI GA TUKUTTA MONO DESU YOROSHIKU ONEGAISHIMASU NAO RUIJIHIN NIWA GOCHUI KUDASAI 1988 segas16b.c ddux1 ddux Sega Dynamite Dux (set 1, 8751 317-0095) &'%&'345MAIN PROGRAM BIN-CHAN-SAN ASSISTANT PROGRAMMER DUKE RANKING PROGRAM OKA-CHAN "PUNK BOY" CHARACTOR DESIGN KIYO-CHAN BACK-GROUND DESIGN "FIXED-TIME-MAN" SOUND DESIGN HIRO GAME CHECK JI-SAN"SENIOR CITIZEN" "ACHACHA S MODEL" MATCH SPECIAL THANKS SADA"MONSTER OF MARSH" 1988 segas16b.c exctleag 0 Sega Excite League (FD1094 317-0079) 1988 segas16b.c passsht 0 Sega Passing Shot (World, 2 Players, FD1094 317-0080) 1988 segas16b.c wb3 0 Sega / Westone Wonder Boy III - Monster Lair (set 6, World, System 16B, 8751 317-0098) Westone 1988 segas24.c gground 0 Sega Gain Ground (World, 3 Players, Floppy Based, FD1094 317-0058-03d Rev A) 1988 segas24.c hotrod 0 Sega Hot Rod (World, 3 Players, Turbo set 1, Floppy Based) 1988 segas24.c sspirits 0 Sega Scramble Spirits (World, Floppy Based) 1988 segaybd.c gforce2 0 Sega Galaxy Force 2 from SEGA and Debutta boys ... WE ARE DEBUTTA BOYS 1988 segaybd.c pdrift 0 Sega Power Drift (World, Rev A) 1988 system1.c ufosensi 0 Sega Ufo Senshi Yohko Chan (MC-8123, 317-0064) VIC Tokai
Squirrel's answers
My understanding is that Sega set up a Japanese software R&D department in 1983. Just the one. It was split up into bits in 1984, and again in 1988, and AM1/AM2/AM3/AM4 etc turned up in 1990.
SG-1000 games like Girl's Garden, Flicky and Doki Doki Penguin Land are in-house Sega stuff. So definitely producing their own console games by 1984.
There was always an arcade R&D department working on things in Japan (this stretches back to 1951 or 1960 or whatever). I believe Man T.T. is explicitly mentioned on the archived AM4/Mecahtronics website, so they were definitely making discrete logic games in the 70s (this might count as a list).
The older electro-mechanical stuff is entirely's Sega's. Designed (and built?) in Japan, sold around the world through various distributors. Same with pinball.
Blockade, Comotion, Hustle and World Cup were made by Gremlin in 1976/1977. I don't think they have anything to do with Sega. In fact I imagine Gremlin stopped producing games entirely after they were bought by Sega and started doing cabinets by 1978/1979, (i.e. the ROMs are programmed in Japan, the cabinets are built in the US). Sega starts to actually get mentioned in 1979. Chances are Gremlin never made a game in colour (though hacked things like Gee Bee to display the Gremlin name).
I don't know where the VIC comes from, but I'm equally not sure it's just called "DUAL hardware" or something like that either. I think Dual was a specific type of cabinet which let you stick two games together (Invinco, Head-On, Deep Scan, Head-On 2 etc.) - the hardware itself probably doesn't have a name. The Dual cabinet was probably made by Gremlin exclusively for US audiences.
My guess is that Sega obtained licenses from various companies like Konami to distribute products (e.g. Frogger) in overseas markets - Gremlin built and marketed US cabinets on behalf of Sega. And at some point Sega crushed the Gremlin brand and started taking all the credit themselves.
-Black Squirrel (talk) 06:04, 14 November 2013 (CST)
- partial reply for now: not sure about the Gremlin stopping software dev thing; Digger was definitely done in the US (there's a message near the end of the ROM) - Andlabs (talk) 00:50, 15 November 2013 (CST)
- I forgot this - Digger is a retooled version of Heiankyo Alien, so that might explain that anomaly.
- My current theory is that Gremlin did localisation (aka stick their logo in the ROM and adjust difficulty) as opposed to making things from scratch, but that only covers non-Sega properties. -Black Squirrel (talk) 15:24, 15 November 2013 (CST)
Squirrel hijacks page
look for patterns (WIP) (US dates)
http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=info&page=GremlinBoardList.txt
C = cabinet F = flyer M = maual T = title screen
NOT SEGA
- Blockade 1976; C Gremlin
- Comotion 1976; C F Gremlin
- Hustle 1977; C F Gremlin (JP flyer Taito)
- Blasto1977; C F Gremlin
- Depthcharge 1977; C F Gremlin
- World Cup 19xx; F Gremlin
DEFINITELY SEGA
- Space Attack 19xx; C T Sega (JP only?)
- Head On 1979 (flyer); C Gremlin F Gremlin/Sega, T Sega
- Head On 2 19xx; C Gremlin F Gremlin/Sega
- Invinco 1979; C Gremlin F Gremlin/Sega T Sega
- Deep Scan 1979 F Gremlin/Sega
- Car Hunt 1979 T Sega
- Invinco/Head On 2 Dual 19xx; C Gremlin F M Gremlin/Sega T Sega
- Invinco/Deep Scan Dual 19xx; T Sega
- Car Hunt/Deep Scan Dual 19xx; M Gremlin/Sega
- Samurai 19xx (assumed JP only)
- Monaco GP 1979; C Sega F M Gremlin/Sega
- N-Sub 1980 M Gremlin/Sega
- Space Tactics 1980; C Sega F M Gremlin/Sega
- Carnival 1980; C F M Gremlin/Sega T Sega
- Space Trek 1980; T Sega
- Pulsar 198x; C F M Gremlin/Sega
- Tranquillizer Gun 1980; M Sega/Gremlin T Sega
- Space Odyssey 1981; C Gremlin/Sega, F M Sega/Gremlin T Sega (table top Sega)
- Space Fury 198x; C Gremlin/Sega F M Sega/Gremlin, T Sega
- Borderline 1981; C Sega/Gremlin T Sega
- Turbo 1981; C T Sega F M Sega/Gremlin (later all Sega)
- Zaxxon 1982; C F M Sega/Gremlin T Sega
- 005 1982; C F M Sega/Gremlin T Sega
- Zektor 1982; C M Sega/Gremlin, F T Sega
- Tac/Scan 1982; C F M T Sega
LICENSED THROUGH SEGA
- Gee Bee19xx; C Gremlin, F Gremlin/Sega, T Gremlin (from Namco)
- Astro Fighter19xx; C Gremlin, F Gremlin/Sega (from Data East)
- Digger 1980; C F M Gremlin/Sega (retooled Heiankyo Alien; from Denki Onkyo)
- Moon Cresta 1980; C F M Gremlin/Sega T Gremlin (from Nihon Bussan)
- Space Firebird 1980; C F Gremlin/Sega T Gremlin (from Nintendo)
- Super Moon Cresta 1980; C Gremlin/Sega F Sega/Gremlin (from Nihon Bussan)
- Frogger 1981; C F M Sega/Gremlin T Sega (from Konami)
- Tactician 1981/82; F Sega/Gremlin T Sega (from Konami)
DON'T KNOW
- Super Space Attack19xx; C Gremlin
- Astro Blaster 1981; C F M Gremlin/Sega T Gremlin
- Battle Star 198x; C Gremlin/Sega
- Eliminator 1981; C F M Sega/Gremlin T Gremlin
Non-US?
- Alpha Fighter 19xx
- Heiankyo Alien 19xx (assumed JP only)
- Star Raker 198x (assumed west germany only)
Sega Electronics - 1982
Thoughts
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_video/taito/28146901.jpg http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_video/taito/28005701.jpg
Hustle and Safari (that's 1977 Safari, not this electro mechanical one) were sold in Japan by Taito.
http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=630 ...yeah
either way I'm not seeing any evidence to suggest these two were ever touched by Sega.
Blasto and Hustle were brought to the TI-99/4A in 1980 by Milton Bradley (and re-released in 1982 by Texas Instruments themselves). No mention of Sega or Gremlin (or Taito) there either.
Blockade was definitely Gremlin's [1].
I... don't think Super Space Attack actually exists. I think it might be Space Attack with a different name, as opposed to a "sequel".
The VIC might be this